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Puna
Lokahi

USA
227 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  1:20:55 PM  Show Profile
Aloha Keali'i, Stacey

Mahalo for your back and forth. You are both eloquent and passionate, without ever being mean or belittling the other. This was a great discussion of a sensitive topic.

Keali'i...next time I'm in Aiea I'll buy you a beer. Partial reparation for the sins of my forefathers - although like Stacey I'm of Polish stock (and English and German and French and Iroquios and akua knows what else. Typical mutt).

Stacey...if I'm ever in Sunnyvale, I'll buy you a beer. Just because. Or maybe a pirogi!

Eric

Puna
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huiohana
Lokahi

115 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  1:21:14 PM  Show Profile
Yep, I remember one time when "Magnum" was at the top of the ratings. My sister was "head over heals" for Selleck and my mom "volunteered" to take my sister to one of his shootings down Makapu'u. They both were bummed when it went off the air.(Funny, how woman flatly deny these things ever happen.)
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huiohana
Lokahi

115 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  1:48:23 PM  Show Profile
Aloha Eric,
I will take you up on that offer...but for wala'au reasons. No need to make amends for anything. Heck, I'm part Irish and Cherokee along with Hawaiian but I am not going to no one to apologize for something I had no control. And I will not ask you to do the same. Just to WALA'AU. And sing Hawaiian music, of course. A hui hou, Keali'i.
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Dana
Akahai

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  2:11:26 PM  Show Profile
Aloha Keali'i, Stacey and all.....

Just to throw my 2 cents into the pot....and please I'm not trying to piss anyone off..but it is interesting to ask what makes a person Hawaiian...I am hapa; my mother is Hawaiian Chinese and my dad is Italian. Because my father was in the army, we would always spend plenty time on the mainland, but still move back to hawaii when my dad could get an assignment back home. Here's the thing, is that every time we would come back home, because I would speak "proper english" and not pidgen, and because no more sun in the mainland, so no tan, I would always endure being called a hoale, get stink eye, whatever, (and my brothers even worse), even though, I actually have more Hawaiian blood than most of the people calling me a haole....really hurt at the time, specially since I had plenty relatives (and still do) all over the Island..and grew up learning plenty Hawaiian stuff from my tutu....so on the surface it seems that the thing that would make one Hawaiian is having a tan, and speaking pidgen..not true....so what does make one Hawaiian? Is it living in Hawai'i? What happens after you move? Is it embracing and loving the culture and her different peoples? Like Caucasion, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Hawaiian, Portugese, Samoan, etc. Is it having some level of Hawaiian blood quantum, like OHA or Kamehameha Schools embrace? Not to many pure Hawaiins left.. I really don't know..all I really know is that I love Hawai'i, it is forever in my heart and soul...and I want to preserve and perpetuate the Aloha, the culture and share with those who may not know the goodness and love that is Hawai'i .....and what better way than through music?

Aloha no

Dana
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huiohana
Lokahi

115 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  3:31:18 PM  Show Profile
Aloha Dana,
As I've mentioned, the thing that makes someone Hawaiian is if you are Hawaiian. Whether one drop, or coming out of your ears. Again, I do not understand why people are so up in arms when hearing this. If I love the African culture and immersed myself in it and learned the language, does that make me African-Hawaiian. No. And I would have to live with that. As I also mentioned, I am happy that "non-Hawaiians" love my culture and "share" it with others but they need to realize where it all ends.
My two half brother's and sister are half Hawaiian and pull the Haole side too the max.(appearance-wise). And they endure the "haole" names to this day. But when they speak(especially sister)there is silence from those clowns who dared to challenge. What gets me is whatever happened to "What ever you say may bounce off me and stick to you" type of attitude, now days with people. We are, or should be, adult enough to not let "teasing" get us so down that we got to go to our cars or homes to cry. When people say those things, they just have something wrong and don't need no added attention. Just let them show their ignorance side and let akua deal with them. A'ole pilikia. Enjoy life...A hui hou, Keali'i.
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Dana
Akahai

USA
61 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  3:42:13 PM  Show Profile
Aloha Keali'i

"What ever you say may bounce off me and stick to you" type of attitude, now days with people. We are, or should be, adult enough to not let "teasing" get us so down that we got to go to our cars or homes to cry. When people say those things, they just have something wrong and don't need no added attention. Just let them show their ignorance side and let akua deal with them. A'ole pilikia. Enjoy life...A hui hou, Keali'i."

I couldn't agree more! A'ole pilikia!

Dana
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huiohana
Lokahi

115 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  3:54:47 PM  Show Profile
Dearest Dana,
Mahalo and...Finally, somebody on the same level...now I can rest. A hui hou, Keali'i Kahumoku.
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Maureen
Aloha

USA
44 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2004 :  02:07:37 AM  Show Profile
Hooray for my Hula sistahs up there!!! They are saying 3,000 of us will descend upon Maui, and some 300 Kumu Hula. I have been asking and asking to try to get some really good slack-key players, because they say in the evenings we will have music!!! Dates are Sunday, May 23rd, 2005 through Sunday, May 30th (maybe it ends that Saturday). Opening Ceremoney is on Sunday May 23rd. The Hula Conference is in Kahului-Wailuku, Maui.

I want to kani ka pila with somebody. Isaac was gonna let me play his guitars, but they are moving to Big Island. So now I don't know what to do about a guitar. Like should I bring mine on airplane and get it all banged-up, or what? Everybody has 'ukulele lessons, but nobody has slack-key lessons. I am taking it long-distance from Keola Beamer's teaching materials, by myself. There are a LOT of 'ukulele students, but hardly any for guitar.

One thing I really want to see is to get somebody to understand how it is on Mainland, and offer slack-key classes to people in the Halau(s), to keep the art of Ki Ho'alu alive and to offer it to Hawaiians. Maybe some of the keiki, who only know about "rock-and-roll" would become very interested if somebody showed an interest in them, and came around to the Halau(s) and showed everybody what slack-key is.

Over here, anybody that shows an interest in us, we just love them to death, ESPECIALLY KEALI'I REICHEL!!! They are about to have a concert in August with Willie K, Amy Gilliom and Sean Na'au. Then we are having Keola Beamer down in Tucson (about a three-hour round trip).

Only my neighbors listen to me play slack-key, and they love it. I have not played for anybody at the Halau yet, because they already have the musicians. My neighbors keep thinking my playing is coming out of a Radio or a CD, and they don't realize it's "live." I am a VERY shy person, who practically faints when I get on a stage, but Hula is helping that. At Aloha Festival, it was amazing. I don't know what happened. Some kind of something came inside of us.

Sorry. I always sound like such an idiot on e-mail.

Me ke aloha,
Maulena
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