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jlsulle
Lokahi

USA
284 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2002 :  7:55:10 PM  Show Profile  Send jlsulle a Yahoo! Message
Hello all,
The #8 cut on Ray Kane's cd,Punahele,is a lovely song called morning dew. I have been trying to learn this song and have nearly worn out the cd. I believe it is played in taro patch tuned down to "F" but I am unable to figure out all the notes and positions. Does anyone know if tab exist for this song and if so, how I might aquire it? Any help would be welcome.
Mahalo, Sulle

Pauline Leland
`Olu`olu

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2002 :  10:47:12 PM  Show Profile
Sulle,

Sorry, no tab solutions here.

I suspect this isn't news to you either, but there is software, even gadgets, you can buy that will take a piece of a track and play it much more slowly without changing the pitch. It helps a lot in transcribing a song, or so I've heard.

I got one version of the software shortly before someone gave me the tab for a piece that I was obsessing over, so I haven't really used it. The version I got is called SlowBlast from http://www.worldwidewoodshed.com/Default.htm and a year or so ago it was one of the best, especially for the price. Relative quality and price may have changed since then.

Good luck to you.

Pauline
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RJS
Ha`aha`a

1635 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2002 :  11:21:09 PM  Show Profile
I use a digital machine by Sabine, couple of years old, so newer models are probably better, buy for $49 -- It will take in 20 sec. off a cd or other digital source and play back at full, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 sppeds and do a fairly good job of keeping pitch. When you shut it off, it keeps what you recorded. Newer Sabines have better features for similar cost.
Raymond
san Jose, CA

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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2002 :  10:32:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Sulle,

Uncle Ray plays Morning Dew on his video Raymond Kane: Learn to Play Ki ho`alu. I do not recall how much of the song he plays, but I can check when I'm home. On this video, Uncle Ray plays through a series of songs giving the viewer a great opportunity to watch and learn. Not much instruction per se, but nevertheless invaluable to watch Uncle Ray's picking and fretting hands. A little bit of story telling too. Very informal video. Even includes Uncle Ray playing right through a couple of mistakes.

You can get the video by contacting Uncle Ray and Auntie Elodia by mail or phone.

Andy
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2002 :  12:46:50 PM  Show Profile

I know that Mark Hanson has tabbed this song and taught it in his workshops. I do not know if he has published it in a book. If you go to his site 'accentonmusic.com' you can check. You may also be able to write him as ask for the tab for a small nominal fee.

...L

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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2002 :  12:55:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
On the topic of transcription software, I highly recommend Transcribe, at http://www.seventhstring.demon.co.uk/xscribe. Not only does it allow you to slow down a song, it also does spectral analysis of selected segments, allowing you to have the computer analyze a segment of the song to help you determine what notes are being played. This is a very powerful feature that I haven't seen in any other transcription software. It's not perfect, but it makes things a lot easier. There are lots of other features as well so take a look (I don't work for the company...just a satisfied customer.)

Craig



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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2002 :  7:25:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
Hanson has Ray's version tabbed out but it's not for sale due to copyright reasons.

Craig


Edited by - cpatch on 11/12/2002 1:59:35 PM
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Mark
Ha`aha`a

USA
1628 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2002 :  8:44:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark's Homepage
Hey Sulle -

Sweet tune.

Grab me some afternoon at the Aloha Camp and I'll show it to ya.

A couple of other campers probably know it, too.

Regardless, I second Andy's advice: get the video. It's wonderful.

Cheers,

Mark

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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2002 :  02:12:26 AM  Show Profile
Jeezus friggin gawd.....

Jerry, Ray plays it in open g, tuned down an entire step. low g will be c etc.

the entire song is built around the c chord. I'm referring to open g positions....so a 'c' chord is all six strings barred at the fifth fret.......anyway

the main melody is played on the high d or c if youve tuned down,

open five seven nine ten......then barre the c at the 5th .

try it play around with it. youll hear the melody and know what comes next. As always players like Ray Kane are playing the melody on the top 2 strings, its what he does with the other 4 that you have to make up......and thats where the magic comes in.

Peace to you my friend

Mike

Andy please dont kick me off this site for that. I didnt put out any tabulature.....sometimes, you like something and just need a point in the right direction :)

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2002 :  10:38:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Since the original post was almost 4 months ago, I wonder how Sulle made out. Did Mark show it to you in Puna?
quote:
...sometimes, you like something and just need a point in the right direction :)
Amen to that. That's why we're here!!!

Andy
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jlsulle
Lokahi

USA
284 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2002 :  3:37:15 PM  Show Profile  Send jlsulle a Yahoo! Message
Hi Mike and Andy
Yes, Mark did show me "morning dew" at the Aloha camp as did Dusty and a couple of other people. After camp Lawrence was able to provide some tab for the version he and Cynthia do. There is really a lot of great support in this group and I am very grateful.
Mahalo nui loa, Jerry
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hwnslacker
Lokahi

USA
295 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2002 :  06:18:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnslacker's Homepage  Send hwnslacker an AOL message
When I come back I'll help you out with it...I owe you some lessons!!! Hope all is well and Aloha!!

Patrick

Patrick Landeza
www.patricklandeza.com
www.landezapresents.com
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jlsulle
Lokahi

USA
284 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2002 :  10:51:00 PM  Show Profile  Send jlsulle a Yahoo! Message
Aloha Patrick
It is great to hear from you again and mahalo for the help. When you have the time I will be looking forward to getting together. Good luck on your tour. I don't know how you find the time with a real job and all but it must be fun to play with some of the greats. Jerry
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hwnslacker
Lokahi

USA
295 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2002 :  5:59:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit hwnslacker's Homepage  Send hwnslacker an AOL message
Very fun!!! I'm here with Cyril right now in Santa Barabara...we're having a ball I'm gonna make him post in the General Mailbox!!!

see you when I get back..promise!!

Patrick

Patrick Landeza
www.patricklandeza.com
www.landezapresents.com
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2002 :  10:39:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Wishing you guys a great tour. Maybe you can post what it's like from the other side of the guitar (performer instead of listener). Aloha!

Andy
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donkaulia
Lokahi

249 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2002 :  01:51:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit donkaulia's Homepage
Hi Patrick,
Give Cyril my aloha over there...I miss him alot...Aloha Pops,
Braddah Don Kauli'a

donkaulia
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