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catheglass
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 04/15/2005 : 8:27:47 PM
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No, not you, Piffle, I was talking about the other guy, standing in the back,,,, <BEG>..... |
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu
USA
553 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2005 : 10:27:56 AM
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I'M A UKULELE WARRIOR !!!
Just say'n that's all |
my Poodle is smarter than your honor student |
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Larry Miller
Akahai
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2005 : 1:20:57 PM
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Hey-
Gabby's tuning for Hi'ilawe was C G E G B E from the bottom up. The main features are that the 1st, 2nd and 3 rd strings are standard tuning, the 4th string is tuned up a note, then the 5th down to G and the bottom down to C. Most of it is played on the 2nd and 3rd strings.
It is truly elegant in its simplicity.
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Whee ha!
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Larry Miller
Akahai
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2005 : 4:57:03 PM
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I wanted to make sure I got this right, so I checked the Dancing Cat site:
http://www.dancingcat.com/skbook5-hirecordingscbb.shtml#C11 Yep, that's it. Section C 11
If you drop the second string to A, you have Gabby's Mauna Loa C tuning, with those lovely moving intervals on the first and second strings instead of the first and third as in taro patch. section C 21 |
Whee ha!
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 04/19/2005 : 02:42:33 AM
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Larry,
I have been foolong around with C tunings in general ( for lots of reasons) and recently looked at Gabby's Mauna Loa C tuning - also called C6. So, you might be interested in this:
Since the tunings are so similar, all the things I wrote before about Atta's C (do a search here, including archives)bass notes apply (but I'll add a bit more later).
Since it is a ML tuning and has an interval of a 5th between 2nd and 1st
strings, you get the very high 6ths - and once you learn the fingering for
one ML, you know it for all MLs. Fingerings are:
1 3 5 7 8 10 12 13
0 2 3 5 7 8 10 12
But, the real kicker is that, since the intervals of the low strings are so
large (a total of 11 notes from string 6 to 3) and the intervals between
the top 3 strings are 2 and 5, you get a *kind* of Open tuning on strings
4,3,2 that are exactly the same as in Open G, only they start 2 notes lower.
They are true triads, e.g., EG#B, FAC, GBD, etc., AND they all have the same
simple diagonal shape (like the 789 G chord in Open G), They are a kind of
slanted barre that can be done with 3 fingers, and you just move up the
fretboard in the major chord numerical semitone pattern (2212221) circularly
shifted to start with E, so it is 1222122. Real easy to do. As I said, the
triads start 2 notes lower than in open G (which is good,) but then every
triad has the same frequencies as in Open G. There is really nothing to
learn here; you already know it.
Since the 6ths are high, the 3rds are slightly lower and on the 2nd and 3rd
strings. They are the same notes as the 3rds on the *same* strings in Open
G, but the fingering is similar to the 6ths in Open G:
2 3 5 7 8 10 12 14
0 2 4 5 7 9 10 12
So, you almost know all that already, too.
Scale climbs: "Just Say No" to a sequence with a low D. That's just an
arrangement issue. Scales start with the 4 string and go up. So, it is 0, 1,
0, 0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 0 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, etc. (the 3rd and top string are just
standard, so you know it.)
About basses and alternating basses:
You *can* do the *drone* like Ozzie does for the V7 chord (G7) using the
3rd string (G) if you care to, but even he rarely does that. What he and
everyone else who uses C tunings mostly do is pair the low C with E(4th
string) and the low G with F on that string, or you can switch those pairs,
or hammer on the 4th string to get both, or bag it altogether.
The Hi`ilawe vamp is so easy in this tuning it is laughable (talk about 1st
position!):
E----------------h------0------
A---------------2-3--2---------
G---------h--0-----------------0
E--------0-1----------------0--
G-[0]--------------------------
C----0------------------0------
Depending on the arrangement the G in [] is optional. If the 2nd string were B, it would be even eaiser as it would just be 0 h 1 and 0 (open). It is all about ease of playing.
So, there is not much to learn and the key is those / shaped open chords and
the ML high 6ths. The IV chord, F, is frets 1,2,3 and the V chord is on
frets 3,4,5 or you can use parts of it lower down, if you want. You can see
them by using the Alternate Tuning applet.
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Larry Miller
Akahai
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 5:55:00 PM
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Wow- that's almost a case of informational overload- But thanks! This is the kind of stuff I print out and then really work with. Thanks!
btw- I mentioned that Gabby's Hiilawe tuning was mostly on the 2nd and third strings- actually, it's mostly on the 2nd and 4TH strings. C chord is all open except the second string, first fret- the G chord is all open with the 4th string first fret.
I should really get out the geetar and try these things out before I post up stuff...
;=)>
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Whee ha!
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