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Mark
Ha`aha`a
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1628 Posts |
 Posted - 01/03/2006 : 11:58:09 AM
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I talked with Fred the other day about his upcoming classes at the February Aloha Camp.
He'll be teaching daily workshops in C6 tuning. We decided to keep things at the "beginner" level, as that's really where most of us will be. Look to learn some tricks and tips, proper bar manipulation, vibrato, turnarounds and licks, plus some nice songs like "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight."
He'll be available for private and one on one lessons, too.
And he'll give a special workshop in the tuning he learned from his mentor, David "Feets" Rogers. "Feets" played with the legendary Sons of Hawai`i and for many, including this boy, is THE Hawaiian steel player.
Also, Dennis Lake told me he'd have some nut extenders on hand to slip under the strings of a standard guitar.
Oh, and Musician's Friend is blowing out the cheap-o Artisan steels for $49!!
Speaking of cheap, last-minute airfares to Hawaii are 'way down. So there's still time to join us.
See you all in a month!
Mark
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2006 : 5:46:28 PM
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E Mark, I am really looking forward to Camp. Some questions... I managed to get my hands on a vintage (1947) steel Rickenbacker, which I think is really sweet, and I was planning on bringing it to Camp but am having second thoughts. What if they won't let me carry it on the plane? I really don't want to check this thing, because it's so special to me. (It was born the same year I was).
You have experience with carry-on nightmares, this case is a little bigger than an ukulele, but not quite as large as a guitarcase. Any sage advice?
Should I get one of those $49 jobbies and will it be satisfactory once I get to Moloka'i and all it's environmental variables, sun, surf, humidity, etc.?
Also, I am struggling as it is with Taro Patch tuning. How different is C6? See, I really am a novice. Duh...  But then, what better place to learn than Music Camp!
Aloha nui loa, Julie |
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ohanabrown
Lokahi
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Posted - 01/03/2006 : 9:49:38 PM
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Aloha, Mark
I could lend Julie my student guitar ( steel.) when you leave maui for molokai in febuary. And when you come back you could bring it back to maui.
Julie it might be easier that way so you would'nt have to worrie about losing your steel guitar, or the airlines sending it to another island. Please take the offer it would be an honor to have you play it. Someone gave it to my dad when he was 15 years old, and passed it on to me. I don't use it anymore because i have a gibson 8 string steel that i play now. So if you want to let me know and i'll hook up with Mark when he comes to Maui in Febuary.
Me Ke Aloha
Kevin... Mark i got the artical from Lark Camp. |
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Pua Kai
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 01/04/2006 : 09:06:07 AM
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Hi Julie,
You have the perfect solution. However, despite all the warnings, horror stories etc before camp last year, I took my buddy John Dietz's advice and put my guitar in soft case and carried it on. That was HNL to Moloka'i, ferry to Maui, then Maui to LAX. It fit in all overhead bins and I didn't hear a negative peep, nor have any trouble with it. A hard case won't fit in the overhead bins on some of the smaller inter-island flights.
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2006 : 09:26:59 AM
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Wow, Kevin, that is a very generous offer. You are the best. Looking forward to seeing you soon!
Julie - Now you have three choices. If you want to bring the Ric, bring it. It really ought to fit on the overhead. That being said, I'm bringing my Artisan, cuz it's really pretty much of a beach guitar. My 37 Silver Hawaiian will stay home this trip...
Here's another packing choice: I picked up one of the huge Costco wheeled duffles. The amp & other hardware (and camp paperwork) goes in the bottom compartment. The steel and my clothes goes in the top. Then I check it thru.
RE: Tuning - C6 is sorta like High G tuning, sorta not. It is used far more in Hawaiian steel, so it's a good choice to learn. And you'll be in the same boat as the rest of us - I play mostly in G6.
Like the zen dogs say, it's good to have a beginner's mind!
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2006 : 11:32:07 PM
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Yeah but Mark, you are already a phenomenal player. I'm still trying to get my hands to do the right things. I'm not in the same boat as you folks, I'm hanging on to the outrigger!
Kevin, I just think that's the most wonderful offer, I'll be a little scared to borrow it for fear I might damage it someway, somehow. However, I would love to take your guitar because I know good mana comes with it, and hopefully it will "channel" all the sweet music it has played before. It must have a lot of soul. Really, I am humbled to think you'd let me use it. Thank you so very much.
Is it an acoustic, or do I need to bring the little Microcube Amp that Santa left by my chimney this Christmas? Larry and I will be on Maui for a few days before camp, maybe we can get in touch then.
And we'll go back to Maui after, go the Whale Fest at Kapalua, spend Valentine's Day in Napili, then go catch George's show at the Ritz on Wednesday. I have a feeling I'm not going to be anxious to return home after all that. 
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ohanabrown
Lokahi
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Posted - 01/05/2006 : 09:49:51 AM
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Aloha, Julie
You would need your "present from santa" the steel needs to hook up. Since you'll be on maui, let's get together and i'll pass over the steel guitar to you.
Don't worry, i know it'll be in good hands and after you use it, it'll have your mana on it. After the camp you were planning to go to the Ritz? is the date Febuary 8th? If it is, I'll be hosting the "Slack Key Masters" at the Ritz Carlton that week. George will be attending the Grammy's, Paul Konwiser and George called to see if i could host the show, and Cyril is the artist for that night. Do you have my contact numbers?
Me Ke Aloha
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 01/05/2006 : 9:49:07 PM
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Aloha Kevin,
No, we'll be on Moloka'i until the 11th, so we'll miss your hosting the Ritz. I did see that you were going to do that on a calendar on George's website. If you want to email me with your contact info, mail via this site, please. And thank you a million times!
KonaBob, if you're reading this threat, um thread, remind me: did you tune my resonator to C6 when you were visiting us here in California? I remember you tuning one string down or up, but can't recall all of the details. It was a rather busy time.... 'Twas fun, though.
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
928 Posts |
Posted - 01/06/2006 : 07:46:17 AM
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Hi Julie,
Your resonator was tuned to Taro Patch (D-G-D-G-B-D) but I then tweaked one of the strings to make it G6th (D-G-E-G-B-D).
I know a lot of people who play C6th on electric steel guitars, but I haven't ever heard C6th on an acoustic guitar. You may have
to break a few strings to find a set that will work on your resonator. Kevin, if Julie tells you the distance from the nut to the saddle
on her guitar, can you recommend a string set for C6th?
Boy, it's too bad you and Larry aren't coming over to the Big Island! But I will see you in June! |
Konabob's Walkingbass - http://www.konawalkingbass.com
Taropatch Steel - http://www.konaweb.com/konabob/
YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Konabob2+Walkingbass |
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gbross
Aloha
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Posted - 01/07/2006 : 08:47:06 AM
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You can play C6 on an acoustic or resonator guitar. I do it all the time on my Dobro and TriCone. Here are the gauge strings you need. .36 .30 .26 .22(p) .18(p) .15(p)
Go here and listen to my C6 acoustic recordings on the tunes "Nalani" and "Chanukah oh Chanukah".
The rest of the steel tunes are on my 1935 Bakelite Rick.
Good Luck!
http://www.hsga.org/new_design/GeraldRoss.htm
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Gerald Ross
Northwest Ann Arbor Michigan's King of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association (www.hsga.org)
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
928 Posts |
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gbross
Aloha
21 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2006 : 7:37:46 PM
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Hi Konabob,
Both my Dobro and TriCone are 25.5" scale. I use the CEGACE lo-hi tuning. |
Gerald Ross
Northwest Ann Arbor Michigan's King of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association (www.hsga.org)
www.geraldross.com |
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2006 : 7:57:55 PM
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Thanks for all the info, folks. I'll have to pay closer attention now.
Mark, the fellow at the music store told me my Ric was made around 1947, according to this little booklet he had. But when I checked out another website, the picture of the "Silver Hawaiian" is the closest to my instrument. Also, the name is spelled Rickenbacher, not Rickenbacker, and it has the word "ELECTRO" under. I understand that the name was changed after the war, which makes mine pre-war. Have any more interesting info than I have so far? You have one, right?
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2006 : 09:55:49 AM
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quote:
But when I checked out another website, the picture of the "Silver Hawaiian" is the closest to my instrument. Also, the name is spelled Rickenbacher, not Rickenbacker, and it has the word "ELECTRO" under. I understand that the name was changed after the war, which makes mine pre-war. Have any more interesting info than I have so far? You have one, right?
Julie - I'm not even close to knowledgable about this stuff. I did some internet research when I bought my '37 Silver Hawaiian, and disscovered that you can't date Rics from the label -- they appearantly continued to use up old staock with the "ch" after the war.
Here's a discussion on that subject:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/004549.html
And here's a page with some stunning pix of a first-generation single knob Silver Hawaiian:
http://www.vintagemandolin.com/38ricksilverhawaiian841988.html
Happy slidin'
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neeej
`Olu`olu
USA
643 Posts |
Posted - 01/11/2006 : 8:26:48 PM
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| For all you procrastinaters, 'tis hereby too late---Musician's Friend is now sold out of the Artisan cheapo's |
--Jean S |
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