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RWD
`Olu`olu
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 Posted - 05/12/2007 : 12:35:22 PM
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This question comes from my question about Hawaiian melodies.
I want to have a collection of original or nearly origin versions of the most popular classic Hawaiian standards.
I think they would probably come from vocal groups such as The Son's of Hawaii or Kahauanu Lake trio, etc.
With a few exceptions, I do not know which songs are considered classics.
The question is: If you were to start buying CD's to begin such a collection, which 5 to 10 CD's would you choose?
I need help with this because I am going to visit Mele.com sometime in the near future.
I do recall someone mentioning Eddie Kamae heading an effrot along these lines but not sure where to find it or if it is suitable to what I am looking for.
Thanks
Bob
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 2:26:12 PM
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Bob - I believe that if you start with this DVD from Eddie Kamae, you might be guided in your search. I got mine from amazon.com before I learned about Eddie's web site at: http://www.hawaiianlegacy.com
Eddie has done his darndest to document the music and to pay honor to the sources, for which I am grateful.
Dennis Kamakahi and Aaron Mahi are scholars on the Queen's music and that of the other ali`i. They were quite prolific song writers. You may also want to research the music of Kawena Pukui and Lena Machado.
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In Hawai‘i, music has always been much more than a form of entertainment. Through the centuries it has been a primary means of cultural continuity. This documentary pays tribute to a range of composers who flourished between the 1870s and the 1920s, and for whom Hawaiian was still a first language. The film explores the poetry and play of Hawaiian lyrics, as well as the places and features of the natural world that inspired songs still loved and listened to today.
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Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 6:09:28 PM
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Many of the classic albums are out of print and the current choices are many and varied. While there are many albums filled with generic hapa haole tunes, finding a high percentage of Hawaiian language standards is more of a challenge. I would consider George Kahumoku's Classic Hawaiian Hula series as a good starting place. He sings the songs very straight and plays them gently on his 12-string. Darlene Ahuna has an album of classic hulas. If you visit www.mele.com, you can browse the Hawaiian category and find many choices. One of the curiosities of Hawaiian music is that albums are often a conglomeration of mainland pop covers, Christian songs, Hawaiian songs and novelties from the island repertoire, so that you often get songs you don't really want in order to get the songs you do want. Isn't that the way it always goes?
I have enjoyed every Hui 'Ohana album (mainly from the 70s) because they are jam packed with classics. Ditto the Ho'opi'i Brothers, Auntie Genoa Keawe, Darlene Ahuna, Kawai Cockett, Raiatea Helm, Kimo Keaulana and Lei Hulu and Dennis Pavao.
Jesse Tinsley
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 9:39:55 PM
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| I want to underline Dennis Pavao's work, especially on songs of the Monarchy, and the one album by George Helm. Lena Machado's "Hawaiian Songbird" is still available on CD. My knowledgable friends tell me that the Sons of Hawaii albums get pretty "close to the source". George K told me that the one Edith Kanaka'ole's CD you see around is very accurate. |
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 5:33:56 PM
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I think you may like "Na Mele Paniolo", a double set CD recording of Hawaiian people in their natural environment on various islands. All classics to me with some more popular tracks, sometimes hard to recognize in these old versions. Inquire at the Honolulu Academy of Arts if you can't find it anywhere. Or try Borders.
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/14/2007 : 09:15:56 AM
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| email Auntie Maria; she'll have as good recommedations as there are. I've asked her a bunch in the past and she's always right on. |
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sandman
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 05/14/2007 : 2:55:31 PM
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Originally posted by hikabe
I think you may like "Na Mele Paniolo", a double set CD recording of Hawaiian people in their natural environment on various islands. All classics to me with some more popular tracks, sometimes hard to recognize in these old versions. Inquire at the Honolulu Academy of Arts if you can't find it anywhere. Or try Borders.
I saw a copy when I was in their bookstore last year. They are also starting a series by the same name this year. I think their first concert was in April.
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2007 : 06:01:52 AM
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"Na Mele Paniolo" was produced by the Hawai`i State Foundation on Culture and the Arts in 1990 -- originally on cassette; re-released on CD in 2004. It is available only at museum gift shops here in the islands -- a double-CD set with large-ish booklet, that's a treasure! It's truly got the venerable "aunties & uncles" backyard music sounds. You might be able to find it on the Bishop Museum website. If not, try calling their gift shop (they do take phone orders).
FYI -- don't confuse this with "Na Mele O Paniolo: Songs of the Hawaiian Cowboy", which is a completely different CD. This one was released in conjunction with Edgy Lee's marvelous film about Hawaii's beloved paniolo:
http://www.filmworkspacific.com/films_tv.html
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2007 : 08:13:44 AM
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Thanks for the information everyone
At this stage, I realize that I have to look back in order to progress. I want to hear the original versions. Why? Because I need to decide if I want to perpetuate the arrangements I now play.
If I do, I want to know how they are different.
If I don't, I would consider doing my own arrangements.
I would still like to get suggestions if anyone has more.
Thanks
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keoladonaghy
Lokahi
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Posted - 05/15/2007 : 08:18:19 AM
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John Kameaaloha Almeida 1897-1985
Lena Machado, Hawaiian Song Bird
Na Leo Hawai'i Kahiko (has chant as well as some hula ku'i songs) |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 05/15/2007 : 1:27:14 PM
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Bob - here is a cut and paste of an earlier thread aabout "Kawika" by Sunday Manoa. The web site that Harry B. Soria is talking about has not only Kawika, but several other songs as well. The clips play portions of several different versions of the same song in ascending chronological order so you can hear how the earliest records sounded on up to the modern ones. It shows how the songs have been changed over the years. A very good learning tool is that web site.
Wanda
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So pleased to learn that our Territorial Airwaves Tribute exhibit for "Kawika" at territorialairwaves.com has assisted your search for the roots of this piece. Our goal is to do precisely that: graphically illustrate how Hawaiian music evolved through the decades leading up to the Hawaiian Renaissance of the 1960s/1970s, and then beyond to this very day. Our desire is to share the recorded history of how Hawaiians have arranged their chant & mele over the years, so that western musical influences can be recognized during the evolution of each piece, through an exhibit edited down to a few minutes in length. We will continue adding more exhibits for your enjoyment.
Mahalo plenty,
Harry B.
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