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mike2jb
Lokahi
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 Posted - 08/15/2007 : 07:13:01 AM
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I just got my fresh copy of Cyril's "He`eia" from Auntie Maria: twelve really lovely songs done in his distinctive style. Nine of the twelve are played in Atta's C tuning (C-G-E-G-C-E).
If memory serves, Reid produced a scholarly treatise on this tuning some time back, but I'm darned if I can locate it in any of the archived posts.
Can anyone here recall where to find this post? Reid, do you still have a copy with you or have the Andorrans gotten to it?
Any taropatchers have much experience with this tuning, enough to tell if it offers particular advantages over, say, Drop C or C Wahine? Cyril sure makes it sound pretty.
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Admin
Pupule
USA
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Posted - 08/15/2007 : 07:16:41 AM
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| That would be Atta's C. |
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mike2jb
Lokahi
USA
213 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2007 : 08:16:20 AM
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| Thanks, Andy. And thanks, Reid, for sharing the work you did on this tuning. |
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da_joka
Lokahi
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Posted - 08/15/2007 : 10:52:13 AM
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| Awesome work Reid. Wat computer program was da one you wen use fo analyze all da chord forms and make da figgahs? Tanks again eh! |
If can, can. If no can, no can. |
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mike2jb
Lokahi
USA
213 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2007 : 3:44:05 PM
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Hey, Brandon-
I agree Reid's work was awesome, including the example applying this tuning to a portion of one of Ozzie's pieces, to illustrate what you get with the new tuning and what you lose. I'd love to see an analysis like that of other tunings.
The chord analysis program is available here on this site by going to the top tool bar, choosing "learn", then choosing "tuning applet" on the menu that appears.
Make up your own tuning and see what happens. |
Edited by - mike2jb on 08/15/2007 3:45:34 PM |
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da_joka
Lokahi
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Posted - 08/15/2007 : 4:01:34 PM
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| tanks fo da info! |
If can, can. If no can, no can. |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 12:42:50 AM
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Sorry for not replying myself, but Sarah and I were far away.
I did a similar, but sketchier, work on C Mauna Loa, (and one on C6 for steel, which is just for my own current interest) but I can't find it now - I'll look.
As I remember, Mark was going to do something like this for a bunch of tunings, but I don't know where that stands. He is a busy guy.
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 08:08:06 AM
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Hey Reid,
Welcome back - want to here all about it offline. I'dalso like to see your work on C Mauna Loa |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 08:57:20 AM
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Soony Lim taught us the ins and outs of this tuning last February at Aloha Camp. He tunes it down to Bb, which sounds wonderfully rich.
Sonny will be teaching again at this February's Camp.
cheers,
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 4:38:36 PM
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Originally posted by mike2jb
Nine of the twelve are played in Atta's C tuning (C-G-E-G-C-E).
Let's see. (C-G-E-G-C-E). I'm thinging SLACK KEY here, so how much would you have to 'slack' the 2nd string to get from B to C? Same for getting from D to E on the 4th string. Are we taking liberties with the term 'slack key', using it loosely here? Seems like it is a mixture of slack key and tight key in this case. If we are to believe the traditional stories of how slack key started, that is, how they 'slackened', not tightened, some of the keys of the paniolos' guitars, there seems to be a conflict with this (and some other) tunings. |
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 5:06:05 PM
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Originally posted by mike2jb
I agree Reid's work was awesome, including the example applying this tuning to a portion of one of Ozzie's pieces, to illustrate what you get with the new tuning and what you lose.
Funny thing. Ozzie told me a few years ago that Sonny Chillingworth told him that, after he had learned to play every song he knew in Taro Patch, then he should go off and experiment with other tunings. Probably works with Ozzie's pieces, but does it work with Ozzie? |
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neeej
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2007 : 6:38:33 PM
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Originally posted by Mark
Sonny will be teaching again at this February's Camp.
For that, I'd almost register twice <G> |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 08/20/2007 : 02:45:48 AM
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Bill, you are taking the term "slack key", in terms of *tunings*, too literally. What would you call Keola's C, where the 1st string is tuned to E? Don't tell Keola he isn't playing a slack key tuning. Look at all the tunings that George Winston compiled - I gave the URL to that in another thread.
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 08/20/2007 : 02:48:22 AM
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Chunk - I'll get to you as soon as I get over jet lag. A preview: the walking was wonderful and just what my Physical Terrorist prescribed.
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