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alika207
Ha`aha`a
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 Posted - 08/21/2007 : 12:06:04 AM
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Aloha,
In the song "Kamalani," I was wondering if her lover's name is Pukaninui with a kahako over the u or Pu'ukaninui. Iz sings it as if it's Pukaninui, while Leilani Rivera Bond sings Pu'ukaninui. Does anyone know?
Mahalo,
'Alika
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He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu
USA
580 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2007 : 01:34:47 AM
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Originally posted by hawaiianmusicfan138
Aloha,
In the song "Kamalani," I was wondering if her lover's name is Pukaninui with a kahako over the u or Pu'ukaninui. Iz sings it as if it's Pukaninui, while Leilani Rivera Bond sings Pu'ukaninui. Does anyone know?
Mahalo,
'Alika
It is Pu`ukaninui. Leilani's father, famed Kaua`i performer/composer Larry Rivera, wrote this song based on the children's story of Pu`ukaninui, a great singer who went visiting the sacred area of Wailua but was cautioned to return before sundown or he would turn into a frog.
Certainly liberties are permitted when singing the Hawaiian language. One of these is eliding common vowel sounds instead of inserting the expected space or glottal stop. You will also hear this when one word ends in a vowel and the next word begins with the same vowel or an `okina followed by the same vowel sound. One example that comes to mind is the second verse of Kaloaloa
Ke kani kapalulu kahi mokulele la, ea ea
O ku`u aloha a`e keia la, ea ea
Most singers will run "aloha" and "a`e" together so that the second "a" disappears altogether. Listeners understand what is being said in context.
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LovinLK
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 08/21/2007 : 12:09:06 PM
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Lovin' Lee is my favorite pasttime!!
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2007 : 12:31:59 PM
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I thought it was
pu kani nui (with a kahako over the "u" in pu.
That would roughly translate to
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E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2007 : 12:53:39 PM
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We talked about this topic once before at the following: http://www.taropatch.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4978&SearchTerms=kamalani
I believe that the more appropriate meaning in the context of the mele would be the man with a musical voice or something to that effect.
Unless it is more kolohe than we think because pu`u can mean any protuberance of the body, if you get my drift, depending on how nui the protuberance is.
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Me ke aloha
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2007 : 1:10:03 PM
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Originally posted by LovinLK
I thought that was a song Moon wrote and not Larry Rivera.
Nope - 'tis Larry's piece. |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2007 : 1:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by wcerto
We talked about this topic once before at the following: http://www.taropatch.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4978&SearchTerms=kamalani
I believe that the more appropriate meaning in the context of the mele would be the man with a musical voice or something to that effect.
Unless it is more kolohe than we think because pu`u can mean any protuberance of the body, if you get my drift, depending on how nui the protuberance is.
Actually, split up, it's pu'ukani nui.
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He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2007 : 9:37:35 PM
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| Other examples are: Kahalu'u pronounced Kahalu with mekona on the u. When two a's are in succession and no okina is present then the two a's are pronouced as one again with an implied kahako. Pua'a pronounced sometimes as pu'a Some of these pronunciations are related to fast conversational speech and not always applied in song. There are no strict grammatical rules that I know of related this. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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