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alika207
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  5:16:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit alika207's Homepage  Send alika207 an AOL message  Click to see alika207's MSN Messenger address  Send alika207 a Yahoo! Message
Just wanted to ask if anyone else has heard anybody sing this song and use "o" instead of "ia."

Kumaka ka 'ikena o Hi'ilawe.

I've heard some people sing it this way. Gabby wrote it using "ia," 'ae?

He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.

'Alika / Polinahe

Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2007 :  5:51:08 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Gabby wrote it using "ia," 'ae?
Sorry, can't help you with the "o" vs "ia", but I thought you ought to know that Gabby did not write Hi'ilawe, even though it was his signature song. I think the author was Sam Li'a (corrected), I will have to look it up when I get back to broadband. Gabby may not have sung the original words either, plus there are a lot of verses extant and not often sung, even at the time Gabby first did it. Some accountings list as many as fifty verses. Others will have to fill-in and/or correct me.

Suffice to say, this song has a long and colorful history!


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 11/10/2007 1:40:08 PM
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2007 :  6:14:17 PM  Show Profile
Refer to this post: http://www.taropatch.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5859 where Sam Li`a's granddaughter gives some history of the mele. Also, you may way to get Eddie Kamae's video Earth, Words and Aloha. Plenty people sing that song but do not say the words correctly.

Timing here is perfect because I am listening to Maunalua sing Hi`ilawe from their new CD. Bobby Moderow uses the correct words as they are on huapala. org.

There are other versions with lots of verses. Might want to go to mele.com and put Hi`ilawe in the search field. Listen to all the different renderings of this song. It is indeed an education.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  6:17:40 PM  Show Profile
Lyrics and translation, according to huapala.org:
http://www.huapala.org/Hi/Hiilawe.html

First line reads:
Kûmaka ka `ikena iâ Hi`ilawe

Then I went listening to CD soundclips -- found that the "Hi`ilawe" heard here, does in fact use "o" instead of "ia":
HAWAII CALLS / Hawaii's Greatest Hits Vol 2
LEDWARD KAAPANA / Led Live Solo
NEDWARD KAAPANA / His Own Man
DANNY KALEIKINI / Lu`ua at the Hilton Hawaiian Village
ISRAEL KAMAKAWIWO`OLE / Alone in IZ World & In Dis Life
RAY KANE / The Legendary Ray Kane & Wa`ahila
GENOA KEAWE / In the Hula Style

...and that's when I decided this list was long enuff!

Auntie Maria
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alika207
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Posted - 11/10/2007 :  02:31:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit alika207's Homepage  Send alika207 an AOL message  Click to see alika207's MSN Messenger address  Send alika207 a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Auntie Maria

Lyrics and translation, according to huapala.org:
http://www.huapala.org/Hi/Hiilawe.html

First line reads:
Kûmaka ka `ikena iâ Hi`ilawe

Then I went listening to CD soundclips -- found that the "Hi`ilawe" heard here, does in fact use "o" instead of "ia":
HAWAII CALLS / Hawaii's Greatest Hits Vol 2
LEDWARD KAAPANA / Led Live Solo
NEDWARD KAAPANA / His Own Man
DANNY KALEIKINI / Lu`ua at the Hilton Hawaiian Village
ISRAEL KAMAKAWIWO`OLE / Alone in IZ World & In Dis Life
RAY KANE / The Legendary Ray Kane & Wa`ahila
GENOA KEAWE / In the Hula Style

...and that's when I decided this list was long enuff!


Hahahahahahahaha!

Now on a slightly different topic, how many of you like the Sudden Rush version of this song? I love it; I think it's so cool! I know Alana, Keith, and Greg like it too. Anybody else want to answer that?

He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.

'Alika / Polinahe
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2007 :  07:15:18 AM  Show Profile
I like it -- although my first reaction was "Sacrilege!". Then I asked Martin and Cyril how they and the family felt about it, and was told that Sudden Rush came and asked permission...which the family granted.

If it's good enough for the Pahinui `ohana, who am I to complain?

Auntie Maria
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2007 :  09:09:31 AM  Show Profile
Sudden Rush's version certainly is innovative. It is exciting that the younger musicians still remember the kupuna. It is good that they want to keep the "Hawaiian-ness" in their music, even though the style is very modern,

I do believe that Martin Pahinui lent his voice to that one specific cut on the CD. I am sure that at least he did background vocals. I thought I read somewhere, too, that it is not Gabby on there, that it is Martin. That I am not sure about, but for sure Martin is doing background vocals.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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alika207
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 11/10/2007 :  3:32:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit alika207's Homepage  Send alika207 an AOL message  Click to see alika207's MSN Messenger address  Send alika207 a Yahoo! Message
Is there a link to the place where you read that, Wanda? Please let me know. Would love to read it.

He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.

'Alika / Polinahe
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javeiro
Lokahi

USA
459 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2007 :  4:33:36 PM  Show Profile
quote:
There are other versions with lots of verses. Might want to go to mele.com and put Hi`ilawe in the search field. Listen to all the different renderings of this song. It is indeed an education.


I was noticing that there were so many versions of this song once about a year ago so my wife and I sat down one afternoon and listened to 14 different versions that we have in our collection of music, both vocal and instrumental. It was quite an afternoon!

Aloha,
John A.
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