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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
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 Posted - 05/11/2008 : 3:50:27 PM
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I apologize...
I haven't monitered this topic heading ...it's probably old stuff to most "veterans"...
Did Gabby have core tunings for his HSG work...
Somehow, as I listened again to my Best of Gabby cd, I got to wonderin'
How many ways did he tune his HSG. and if more than one....were there one or two favorites?
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/12/2008 : 06:17:01 AM
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Originally posted by Kapila Kane
I apologize...
I haven't monitered this topic heading ...it's probably old stuff to most "veterans"...
Did Gabby have core tunings for his HSG work...
Somehow, as I listened again to my Best of Gabby cd, I got to wonderin'
How many ways did he tune his HSG. and if more than one....were there one or two favorites?
I'm not absoutely sure, but from listening and watching him play on the Sons of Hawaii video, I believe that he played in a C6 tuning. In the video, and from listening hard to "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight" (where he overdubs himself twice), it is an 8 string with a G on the top (G E C A G E C ? either a G or a Bb or an A on the bottom). As Jerry Byrd said, the C6 is a very versatile tuning, since (with the Bb down low, especially) there are major chords, minor chords and diminished chords built in. It is easy in that tuning to move smoothly between chords without hopping around the fretboard. Also, talking to my slack key buddies, Gabby liked C tunings for slack key as well. As a disclaimer, any tuning with a 6th interval (A6, E6, B11, etc) has this feature. |
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Ron Whitfield
Aloha
USA
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi
United Kingdom
225 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2008 : 4:25:54 PM
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| Of course you're absolutely right Ron, but isn't it strange that over here (United Kingdom) we call that tuning C13th ! |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2008 : 03:21:16 AM
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| It must be our close proximity to the Empire - Canada is 1 1/2 hours away - that causes Slipry1 and others in the area to call it C13 also! |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2008 : 10:25:59 AM
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Originally posted by Basil Henriques
Of course you're absolutely right Ron, but isn't it strange that over here (United Kingdom) we call that tuning C13th !
Same in da USA. It's what I have on my 6 strings. As I said above, Bb E G is a Bb or E or G diminished chord. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2008 : 10:30:08 AM
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When you say "Top"...
well I think of left to right, and that it means lowest to highest pitches,
(same for guitar in the west) left/and or "bottom" is the lowest pitch...
and the "top" is highest???
Is it different in merry, but left-hand drive countries?
At least here in the original West (Colorado)...which is only the mid-west to a Hawaiian,
Land of the original singing cowboys.
But seriously,
in theory, a C13 has the dom. 7th, whereas the C6 doesn't.
Depending on voicing and where your "mathing" from...it's also possibly an "a minor flat 9"--not to be confused with the famous, " A flat minor, hold the 9th, but I could sure use a 5th, I'm feeling a little flat, and it's not even the bottom of the 9th!"...also an early Colorado phenomenon, started during the gold rush.
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Basil Henriques
Lokahi
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/25/2008 : 11:25:01 AM
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Am7b9 too complex a name..
As for left-right versus high-low, the protocol with Hawaiian guitar tunings descriptions since time immemorial* has been high to low..
Bottom and top regarding pitch is self explanatory methinks..
On a regular guitar the bottom string is the top string in orientation and likewise the top string is the bottom one.. Is that any clearer ?
And to muddify the already murky waters, up the neck is down and down the neck is up depending on how you're holding the guitar..
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Edited by - Basil Henriques on 05/25/2008 11:30:29 AM |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2008 : 1:50:18 PM
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Originally posted by Kapila Kane
When you say "Top"...
well I think of left to right, and that it means lowest to highest pitches,
(same for guitar in the west) left/and or "bottom" is the lowest pitch...
and the "top" is highest???
Is it different in merry, but left-hand drive countries?
At least here in the original West (Colorado)...which is only the mid-west to a Hawaiian,
Land of the original singing cowboys.
But seriously,
in theory, a C13 has the dom. 7th, whereas the C6 doesn't.
Depending on voicing and where your "mathing" from...it's also possibly an "a minor flat 9"--not to be confused with the famous, " A flat minor, hold the 9th, but I could sure use a 5th, I'm feeling a little flat, and it's not even the bottom of the 9th!"...also an early Colorado phenomenon, started during the gold rush.
By "top" I always mean pitchwise (thinnest string - farthest away from your head - same with regular guitar). And, the 6th note of a scale is also the 13th, so, it is the custom when you have a tuning with a flat 7 (that makes it a 7th chord) and a 6, it becomes a 13th chord, so the tuning is called C13 to differentiate it from a C6 or a C7. Now, the B11 tuning has an 11 note in it, but it is really a B7 on the bottom (see above) and an A6 on the top. Very fun to play in ("Sand", "How'd Ya Do", etc). |
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