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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
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 Posted - 02/02/2009 : 4:14:09 PM
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Yeah, I'm not sure about Duane myself--he was just the first good ole boy blues guy that came to mind. And Del--oh, yeah. She gets it.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2009 : 4:37:06 PM
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I thought them Allman guys just made fuzzy sounding, loud music.
I have read that when Buddy Hoilly was booked to play at the Apollo Theater in Harlem, they were freaked when he showed up and was white. I say BS because there was nothing of Buddy Holly that sounded black. People have said the same thing about Elvis. Not true, in my opinion, either.
But as ffar as singing, Maybe Bill Medley and Bobby Hatfield.
And actually Bonnie Raiatt ain't half bad.
But all that is like listening to Joan Baez sing and play Wildwood Flower or hearing Mother Maybelle. When I was a teenager, I was crazy about Joan Baez. I wanted to BE Joan Baez. But now, I no can listen to her sing the hillbilly songs. Or at least the songs I grew up with. Big difference between my mama singing "When Old Shep Was a Pup" and Elvis singing it.
So to recap, here is what I get out of this thread:
1. Hawaiian Island folks can make music which sounds like slack key even in standard tuning. Very dependent on skill.
2. Hard for malihini to sound like Hawaiian authentic kine even if they love and cherish the music.
3. Bill Wynne is a wonderful exception.
4. The amount of melanin in one's skin has nothing to do with Hawaiian sound, i.e. Kamaka Fernandez.
5. Pat Boone was pretty lame.
6. I never turned into Joan Baez.
7. Folks cannot wait until Petah's book is available.
8. Nobody better chrai kakaroach Petah's intellectual property. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 02/02/2009 : 5:45:20 PM
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I came on line to add a thought, but the thread went much further than I last read. However, I don't want to throw away a thought. They come too seldom, so ....
To pick up on a comment Russell made, and add something to it ....
If you travel through Central America and South America, you hear a tremendous amount of varience in how Spanish is pronounced, inflected and, in short, "sung." Argentine Spanish sounds different from Peruvian Spanish. Guatemalan Spanish sounds different from the Spanish you hear in the Sonoran regions, but it is all Spanish. I think we have a tendency to try to attain some "ideal" which doesn't really exist. There is no one "slack key sound." That is not to excuse sloppy playing, ignorance of the tradition, and even wanting to sound like a specific player. To go back to the example, you can't exzcuse not knowing Spanish grammar by claiming "dialect." Nor does it mean you should simply ignore the melodic quality of the language. But one should never not try to communicate with someone who speaks Spanish just because your use of the language does not come up to Ricardo Montalban, Cantinflas, Pepe Aguilar, or any other person. Nor should you ever not try to enjoy playing or trying to communicate with music because it doesn't come up to the level of .... |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2009 : 9:10:38 PM
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E Thanks for the comment Mark. My 2 kenikeni. No 2 pipi ku taste da same but you know as pipi ku when you et um. So woteva, why we wasting so much space wit opinions. Led alreddy show can make slack key in standard tuning. It is after all just another tuning. So play wot you like how you like and have fun doing it. Aloha no.
as fo blues most times you gotta be hurtin to play it well. It not about color or where yu grew up it is about telling a story you either can or no can das all it is folks. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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Trev
Lokahi
United Kingdom
265 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2009 : 05:55:20 AM
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I’m fascinated with accents, and it is certainly the case that music has accents. You mimic what you hear around you. But most of us can’t remember a time before radio, and we no longer exposed to music just from our immediate community.
How you sound doesn’t necessarily depend on geography, any more. I believe we pick up our musical accents from all over.
How you end up sounding depends on what you listen to, how closely you listen to it, whether you have a teacher or not, who the teacher is, how diligently you practise, how you learn, how much you play. All sorts of things.
This ‘white man playing the blues’ is to my mind a redundant argument. The answer is, some can, some can’t. Like black guys playing classical – some can, some can’t. Nobody should say to anyone what they should confine themselves to playing based on what colour their skin is, or where they were born.
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2009 : 4:47:28 PM
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Acording to the Bavarian Purity Law, lager beer can only contain barley malt, water, hops and yeast. So weissbier, made in nGermany and containing some wheat, cannot be labeled "Lager" in Germany. Nor could the rice and or corn bearing beers from some U.S. brewers. Are they still beer? "Paint pictures, nosy, all talk is lies."-Bob Dylan
Yeah, I talk as much as anybody-az why haad. If ice cream wasn't allowed to contain nuts, what would chocolate-almond be? This white boy can't play the blues-as a steady diet. I'm not unhappy enough to do so. Do I have to prove something, or can I just have good fun?
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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