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basilking
Lokahi
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 Posted - 09/11/2011 : 3:09:59 PM
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In order to take advantange of voicings in taropatch & t'patch/C bass I capo up sometimes depending on vocal.
Seen plenty folks capo to 2nd fret, C, D, G, A common keys for lots I hear. Last few years I've extended it further to 5th & 7th frets, sometimes in "cross-tuning" [i.e. G/C bass = key of D @ 7th w/4th as lowest bass note, thumb-hook the 5th or leave it out].
does anyone else do this?
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Pupule
USA
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 3:57:04 PM
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| The higher you capo up the neck, the less room you have to work with but yes. I am more inclined to capo at the 5th in drop C in order to play in the key of F. Capo at the 5th in taropatch can definitely be a good way to have additional voicings in the key of C. |
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basilking
Lokahi
125 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 4:52:26 PM
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| Thx, Andy |
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tafkam1
Lokahi
USA
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 07:30:47 AM
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I do the same as Andy for F (drop C then capo), and also accompany C with capo on 5th. Easiest way to cover those keys in a Kanikapila setting.
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Sarah
`Olu`olu
571 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 2:01:26 PM
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Yep, as Lawrence says, it's the easiest way to adapt to those 'ukulele folks in kanikapila, who like to play in C and F.
It is also an easy way to raise G to A if you can't quite make the low notes in singing a particular melody. I've done A, B flat, C... but not higher than that, because as Andy points out, the fretting gets too hard and the board too short.
But, pitch aside, there can be an interesting aspect to the tone quality: the sound of G capoed to C has a tinkly sound which can be delightful. Ozzie has an instrumental called Holomua, and I sometimes play it at 3 different positions, because it is good practice and each has its own "feel" to it: in open G, capoed to the 3rd, and capoed to the 5th. They all sound different! Ozzie's original is at the 5th.
Also, if I am tuned to Leonard's C, capoing up to the 2nd can yield me a D tuning with familiar fingering.
Aloha
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1581 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 05:41:17 AM
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You guys are doing it wrong - tune your taropatch G down to F to play with those dadblasted `ukulele!!
Then when you drop your lowest string a whole step you're in Bflat - call a tune in that key if you _really_ want to hear the ukers whine piteously <grin>.
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E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key on YouTube
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 08:14:50 AM
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| I'm with Fran. All my guitars are in F or Open C (Open D down 1 step). BTW, who would play with a ukulele person? |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 10:11:45 AM
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| You guys are hurtin' us ukesters here. Fine then, I'll just play bass with you instead of uke. (And Momi can stay on uke, because she can likely handle whatever key you toss her way - and she don't need no steenkin' capo, neither.) |
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sirduke58
`Olu`olu
USA
993 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 1:52:58 PM
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Hey guys a sure fire repellent for uke players and steel guitarists is the key of E
In a kanikapila circle with multiple slackers passing the lead around it's proper etiquette to accompany the lead in other positions from where he/she is playing. Reason being that you do not want to cloudy up or distract from what the lead is playing.
Taropatch capoed up to C at the 5th fret is very common in kanikapila circles in Hawaii.Using the capo at the 6th & 7th is very uncommon probably because you end up with a guitar whose pitch is higher than a uke. You also shorten your fret board & strings so you get zilch on sustain..................But to each his own. |
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Hookani
Lokahi
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Posted - 09/13/2011 : 2:55:29 PM
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| Or be just like Duke and have a guitar for every key..:) Just make sure the sound man is on his toes so you don't blow the system. |
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basilking
Lokahi
125 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 5:49:58 PM
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No shortage of gtrs to have pre-set in alt tun'gs here, not the point of my post. Just wondered if I was alone in the wilderness capoing up that far.
BTW the 24-fret cutaway Guild 12 I often do this on has no issue w/"lost" higher-range-access. ANY guitar's liable to have decreased sustain/plinkiness once above the 15th fret [or earlier] but chimes and momentary pull-off fragments abound even when capoed @ 7th in my exp, on vtg Martins, that Guild, whatever's in-hand.
Just was wonderin' what others did. I've not seen much of this in my, "Watch, Listen, Try" experience. Thx for all thoughtful responses. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 7:43:28 PM
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| I took care of the short fingerboard, narrow fret problem by building a Guitulele. 6 string guitar tuned to the 5th fret, 20.5 inch scale. Sounds great, I have 22 frets to play with and looks cool, too. NO "plinkiness" if that is even a word :} |
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Anbody else capo up 5th-7th fret in t'patch?
