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fred d
Akahai

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2012 :  6:37:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wats amater everbody forget to play steel over there For me that's the real soung of the islands. redneck wantobe hawiian

fred davis

slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  08:58:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's picking up. My pal, Alan Akaka has several keikis as students. Somehow, the steel guitar waned in importance in the
Hawaiian Reniassance. When I last talked to Cyril Pahinui, he told me that he'd started to play his dad's steel and was giving lessons on the Big Island. Of course, he has Jeff Au Hoy playing steel with him at Kanekapila's on Wednesday night. People forget that Gabby was an awesome steeler!

keaka
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  12:14:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aside from the ears, ki ho'alu for me, plays to the eyes and the mind. Kika kila plays direct to the heart. Fred, I have to agree with you.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a

USA
1206 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  10:04:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm wild about steel, but have such trouble playing mine. I keep getting those ghost notes because I'm not damping the strings correctly, and it is very frustrating. I just keep hoping I'll have more time to practice and take lessons when I'm retired.

Julie
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  05:42:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Led is also a great steel player.
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  09:18:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

Led is also a great steel player.



Not surprising. Fran Guidry once said that Led could play two strings stretched across a brick.

Here is what he can do with an autoharp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUA8tNzJ6Y0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtPHur-0hYk

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain

Edited by - markwitz on 03/10/2012 09:19:00 AM
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  2:52:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Julie H

I'm wild about steel, but have such trouble playing mine. I keep getting those ghost notes because I'm not damping the strings correctly, and it is very frustrating. I just keep hoping I'll have more time to practice and take lessons when I'm retired.

Julie


Julie - keep your left hand on the stings behind the steel. Always keep your hand on the strings and don't lift the bar. It'll work, I promise. Oh - for Hawaiian steel, a bullet bar works better than a Stevens steel, with its anthrophormic shape. You're not going to lift your left hand off, so you don't have to grab the bar.

keaka
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basilking
Lokahi

124 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2012 :  7:50:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing point, Jack. Got a ~12 oz bullet bar that just "has the fat tone". Not so easy to lift as grooved ones.
Have accepted that for "fattest" tone the bullet works. For other deftness, ok/one sacrifices tone for manipulatibility. I continue learnin'
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2012 :  12:14:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by basilking

Amazing point, Jack. Got a ~12 oz bullet bar that just "has the fat tone". Not so easy to lift as grooved ones.
Have accepted that for "fattest" tone the bullet works. For other deftness, ok/one sacrifices tone for manipulatibility. I continue learnin'


Yep. And you keep your left hand as staight as possible and use your left thumb and midde finger to move the steel around. This REALLY helps intonation. Finally, play LIGHTLY! Your amp will take care of the rest. byw, thank you, Jerry Byrd via Alan Akaka. Believe me, it will sound Hawaiian.

keaka
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fred d
Akahai

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  09:05:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I could play half as good as Jerry I could die a happy man. Been beating on this thing for almost two years and lesons for 15 month and now can play ???? about 12 songs from tab now working on playing back up with CD.s due to the speed of the CD.s I use my tuner to help me chang chords

fred davis
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  5:26:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fred d

If I could play half as good as Jerry I could die a happy man. Been beating on this thing for almost two years and lesons for 15 month and now can play ???? about 12 songs from tab now working on playing back up with CD.s due to the speed of the CD.s I use my tuner to help me chang chords


Good, Fred. My lessons from Alan are not about songs, although we may use a song to hang the lesson on, the object is bar movement, pick placement and intonation, the 3 keys to sounding good.

keaka
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basilking
Lokahi

124 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2012 :  2:06:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahhh, intonation. Always useta think I had a "good" ear. Am re-defining "good" as bes' I can...
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justplainbill
Akahai

USA
53 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2012 :  7:18:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Starting out on steel with anything other than a bullet bar, just puts off the inevitable job of getting used to one.

Hey Julie....you still have the frypan ??

Bill
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