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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2012 :  11:35:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Because I'd recently been in a discussion with another island music fan who stated "Waikiki Records had the best releases", I decided to do a quick Google for the label. First thing that popped up was an old Taropatch thread on the subject, which then had me adding important tidbits about recordings onto my mele laptop.

Now two hours later (so glad I'm retired!), I am reminded about the wonderful online source provided by ulukau (which was suggested in the aforementioned thread). Vastly improved over the years, Brett Ortone's songbook is now a wonderfully easy-searchable database -- by song, composer, album, or label. So if you are like me and need to be reminded of things like this now 'n then, click "Island Music Source Book" on this page:
http://ulukau.org/mele/mele.html

Viewer beware -- you can get LOST on the site!

Auntie Maria
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2012 :  1:02:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And you can use up a lot of ink cartridges making hard copies of the Haʻilono Mele Newsletters.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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ypochris
Lokahi

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2012 :  5:27:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, the wonder of my HP laserjet 1200. No color, but thousands of pages print from each $40 cartridge...

(And the price was right, as in free. Some professor must have wanted color, and tossed it into the university trash heap...)
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a

USA
1918 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2012 :  05:08:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@ Mark -- yes indeed. But those newsletters are a treasure-trove of "back door" info about the music and musicians. I tried just reading them online, but would fade out after an issue or two. Investing in the time (and ink!) to print them, put them all in my lap -- and allowed me to hit particularly-interesting sections with a highlighter pen, too.

Wish someone would start a current, online publication like that now...

Auntie Maria
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My "Aloha Kaua`i" radio show streams FREE online every Thu & Fri 7-9am (HST)
www.kkcr.org - Kaua`i Community Radio
"Like" Aloha Kauai on Facebook, for playlists and news/info about island music and musicians!

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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2012 :  03:26:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage  Reply with Quote

iPad + Adobe Reader = 10,000 saved trees

I am one of the rare few, I think, who prefer reading magazines on an electronic viewer. (I still prefer an old-fashioned paper book, but that is a different story altogether.) I downloaded and saved all of the Ha'ilono Mele in PDF format.

If I could put a bed, a stereo, and a TV inside ulukau.org, I could live there. But while the Ha'ilono Mele are a valuable historic resource, they are not, necessarily, always without bias. The primary editor was not George Kanahele but, rather, Dr. Mantle Hood. The issue is not that Dr. Hood was not Hawaiian. The issue is that Dr. Hood's interests may not reflect those of the Hawaiian musicians at that time (or at any time).

Much of Ha'ilono Mele deals with interest in Hawaiian music outside of Hawai'i (focusing on players and recordings from India, Indonesia, Sweden, and elsewhere). So I initially presumed that these were subjects of interest to the Hawaiian musicians in Hawai'i during that period. But these may only have been the particular interests of Dr. Hood. The ever lingering ethnomusicological question being, "Is Hawaiian music made in ___________ [fill in the blank] really Hawaiian?" And I find this interesting that the question was being taken up as long ago as the 1970s because it directly informs the conversation we continue to have today.

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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2012 :  05:23:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hwnmusiclives

The ever lingering ethnomusicological question being, "Is Hawaiian music made in ___________ [fill in the blank] really Hawaiian?" And I find this interesting that the question was being taken up as long ago as the 1970s because it directly informs the conversation we continue to have today.
Indeed. It's an issue that is being addressed at the Nā Hōkū Hanohano Awards this year, as HARA has created a new "International" category, to celebrate Hawaiian music being recorded outside of the U.S. altogether.
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2012 :  09:48:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Indeed. It's an issue that is being addressed at the Nā Hōkū Hanohano Awards this year, as HARA has created a new "International" category, to celebrate Hawaiian music being recorded outside of the U.S. altogether.

If that comes to pass, they should give the first award posthumously to Tau Moe and then proceed from there. Actually they should give it a special name and call it something like "The Tau Moe International Hawaiian Music Award". Maybe that's asking a bit much. Anyway you get my drift.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu

USA
504 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2012 :  12:51:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Russell Letson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have found Ha'ilono Mele enormously useful as a window into the Hawaiian music scene of the 1970s--interviews, news bites (e.g., the tussle over the release of "Pure Gabby"), and bits of information I would never have thought of looking for, like the piece on photographer Billy Howell--and the distressing (if three-decade-old) news that most of his photos of musicians were destroyed by the guy who bought his business. A photo (used in various CD liner notes) of a 27-year-od Gabby with Andy Cummings' Hawaiian Serenaders is one of the survivors. This is the kind of information that adds to my research files texture and detail that would otherwise be unavailable (at least to a writer working from a distance).
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu

USA
580 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  03:29:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit hwnmusiclives's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by markwitz

quote:
Indeed. It's an issue that is being addressed at the Nā Hōkū Hanohano Awards this year, as HARA has created a new "International" category, to celebrate Hawaiian music being recorded outside of the U.S. altogether.

If that comes to pass, they should give the first award posthumously to Tau Moe and then proceed from there. Actually they should give it a special name and call it something like "The Tau Moe International Hawaiian Music Award". Maybe that's asking a bit much. Anyway you get my drift.

Permit me to play "devil's advocate..." Why not Woot Steenhuis? Why not Felix Mendelssohn? Why not Tetsuo Ohashi or Poss Miyazaki? Why not the Kilima Hawaiians?

Like you, I could leap immediately to Tau Moe. But I think there is a very obvious reason that we do. In the absence of a working technical definition of "Hawaiian music," we continue to use our ears to say what is more Hawaiian and what is less Hawaiian.

Please, HARA. Don't screw this up.

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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  05:04:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All a moot point, since the award will be given to current releases, not posthumous ones.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  08:59:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by hwnmusiclives


iPad + Adobe Reader = 10,000 saved trees

I am one of the rare few, I think, who prefer reading magazines on an electronic viewer. (I still prefer an old-fashioned paper book, but that is a different story altogether.) I downloaded and saved all of the Ha'ilono Mele in PDF format.

The primary editor was not George Kanahele but, rather, Dr. Mantle Hood. The issue is not that Dr. Hood was not Hawaiian. The issue is that Dr. Hood's interests may not reflect those of the Hawaiian musicians at that time (or at any time).



I, too, read mostly by iPad. It's great for airplane riding, especially to HI - nothing to see but ocean.

wrt Dr. Hood: I took ethnomusicology at UCLA 1961-62. He was the department chairman. Charles Seeger, Pete, Mike and Peggy's dad, was there, too. Hood's specialty was Indian (Asia) music, and the theoretical basis of ethnomusicolgy - very pedantic and technical. His interest in Hawaiian music would have been to place it into world music and to disect it into it's tonal and rhythmic parts. I only was exposed to Hawaiian music in one 2 hour lecture about the music of Polynesia. It didn't take - it wasn't until 1975 when I heard Gabby playing with Ry Cooder and had taken up steel guitar.

keaka
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