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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2012 :  06:22:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been fooling around with playing in different keys while using taropatch open G tuning. I wound up with a blog post at my Homebrewed Music blog where I usually talk about recording and video tech. http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2012/06/16/playing-the-keys-of-c-and-d-in-open-g-tuning/

I also did a video that I broke up into three sections, they're linked from the blog post.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog

slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2012 :  06:29:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eh, Fran! It was great to see and hear you last week! You should check this out with thumbstruck. He's a whiz at plying in any key while in Taropatch tuning.

keaka
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2012 :  06:34:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great to see you too, Jack. I was just watching Kory do "Waikiki" with about a million chords and one modulation. He's obviously teaching the advanced class <grin>.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2012 :  10:15:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Innovation is Necessity's child. I learned how to comp while playing for Aunty Manu Lono's halau. I adapted some Jazz and Swing chord shapes to Taropatch (only really need 3 or 4 strings at a time). If you keep pickin' at it, it'll never heal.
BTW, I've figgered out "Waikiki" in Taropatch in C. Some of the reaches are easier.

Edited by - thumbstruck on 06/18/2012 1:11:22 PM
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Ambrosius
Lokahi

132 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  02:13:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Inspired by my friend and fellow norseman's videos I was juuust about to look into this ... and here Fran gives me a path layered with gold, to follow.

Thank you so much Fran.

Edited by - Ambrosius on 06/20/2012 02:15:08 AM
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fred d
Akahai

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  08:20:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fran we met in Newcastle a couple years when you opened for Ledward. Your playing and of corse Ledwards inspired me coming from a banjo back ground it was easy, do to knowing the fret board I jumped right in. Now I have played at a hafe doson venues. ( I perfer to play at home with my wife and dogs) and have been asked to teach? at a local music store and teach at a ukulele club we belong to. At this stage of my life I like to share my music and not charge for it becouse it is a labor of love and salvation. ( i'm disabled, suffer from ptos and depresion) The slack key gets deep into my sole and and when playing I feel enlighten. Thank for showing this beautifull solefull music. I now have been taking lap steel lessons for 18 month, and spend most of my wakeing hours playind and looking for information on hawiian music and these two instruments Again THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY fred

fred davis
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2012 :  06:24:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ambrosius

Inspired by my friend and fellow norseman's videos I was juuust about to look into this ... and here Fran gives me a path layered with gold, to follow.

Thank you so much Fran.



Hmmmm, I think that shiny stuff is just mica - but I hope it's fun anyway.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2012 :  06:29:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fred d

Fran we met in Newcastle a couple years when you opened for Ledward. Your playing and of corse Ledwards inspired me coming from a banjo back ground it was easy, do to knowing the fret board I jumped right in. Now I have played at a hafe doson venues. ( I perfer to play at home with my wife and dogs) and have been asked to teach? at a local music store and teach at a ukulele club we belong to. At this stage of my life I like to share my music and not charge for it becouse it is a labor of love and salvation. ( i'm disabled, suffer from ptos and depresion) The slack key gets deep into my sole and and when playing I feel enlighten. Thank for showing this beautifull solefull music. I now have been taking lap steel lessons for 18 month, and spend most of my wakeing hours playind and looking for information on hawiian music and these two instruments Again THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY fred



Gee, Fred, you're very kind to share this. I do like to think that my opening for Ledward demonstrates that _anyone_ can find a way into slack key, because just watching Ledward can make it seem nearly impossible.

Isn't it amazing and wonderful how Hawaiian music can reach out and capture us so thoroughly? So many of us stumbled over just a few notes and fell into a new ocean of music, history, experience.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
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Pops
Lokahi

USA
387 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2012 :  3:20:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fran, I really enjoyed your video. You explained things very clearly. Nicely done!
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Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2012 :  04:45:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mahalo nui for your blog post, Fran. Your cheater D was simple and clever. I like that it can use all 6 strings and retain the low D. Thanks for showing a way to play in D without tuning to D.

Sarah
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2012 :  5:23:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
George Kahumoku plays in D shape in taropatch, at times.
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2012 :  05:18:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I have a couple songs that I play in the key of D, while in taro patch tuning. More often, I have seen players in Drop C, capo up a step so that they are in the key of D. Whatever works!

Andy
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2012 :  06:15:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pops

Fran, I really enjoyed your video. You explained things very clearly. Nicely done!



Thanks, Pops. I hope you have fun with it.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2012 :  06:15:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sarah

Mahalo nui for your blog post, Fran. Your cheater D was simple and clever. I like that it can use all 6 strings and retain the low D. Thanks for showing a way to play in D without tuning to D.

Sarah



Sarah, I bet you could come up with a neat arrangement using those tricks.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2012 :  06:16:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

George Kahumoku plays in D shape in taropatch, at times.



Except that since George is usually in F taropatch he's playing in C, right?

No wonder people think slack key is mysterious!

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
1579 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2012 :  06:19:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Admin

I have a couple songs that I play in the key of D, while in taro patch tuning. More often, I have seen players in Drop C, capo up a step so that they are in the key of D. Whatever works!



Drop C capoed up is certainly the most common way I've seen.

What songs do use the cross-note concept for, Andy? Accompaniment or solo?

I do an arrangement where I start off in D for the intro, then modulate to G for the song, that's what got me started fooling with these ideas.

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
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