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cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  06:33:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Menpachi Man

buh ged snappin turdles.


Snappin turdles? Plenty of those near any sewer outlet!

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  07:10:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
E Petah. Evuh tink dey goin staht one kine class fo study Pidgin at UH? Dey got plenny kine class fo learn 'Olelo. Now wat kine Politco problems dat cauz?

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  08:07:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No my plate stay full already. I did six years community service in da ol' days and I no it haz a high opportunity cost. Rite now fo send my kid to NYU is costing us one Mercedez per year, daz wid out gaz. She iz doing great ova dea so we sendin her back fo next two and a half years -- she will finish up early.

I could make an argument for such a program and leverage it with local students asking "yeah how come no moa pidgin studies?" There already is a substantial body of data on hand from sociology, ethnic studies, linguistics, history and anthropology. There are no guarantees, but it will take a long time to get it through. I can only speak from my experience here at UH. I first started teaching non-credit courses in 1972 when I was a student at UH. My tenure as Faculty/Staff (as an educational specialist) with the Music Department started in 1982. Although the studies and curriculum submissions to change the status to an accredited program were made around 1980 by Dr. Barbara Smith, PhD., she was my mentor while I was on grant at the East West Center's Cultural Learning Insitute, the UH board of Regents did not act upon it until 1998. A period of 18 years. And by this time I was diagnosed with cancer. So the job went to Oz, who I mentored, and who was the best choice, but things didn't work out so well so he left after the first year of accreditation. So the job was offered to me along with the Hawaiian Ensembles when I returned from sick leave. It takes a long time for a program to get accreditation. There are a lot of politics going on and not enough money for all of the programs.
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  09:24:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great. We lose the Pidgin and gain Legalese. Not an improvement to the thread.
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PearlCityBoy
Lokahi

USA
432 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  09:33:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Howzit Brahdah Duke,

Wow lau lau, I figgah I bettah jump in fo get counted on your list before dis tread get too huhu and da buggah been shut down. Scary ting is I akchooley wen follow almost erry post cause pidgin was what us guyz wen talk in da streets Pearl City side. Mebbee moah scary ting is dat I wen even undastan Contemplative Menpachi's dissertation--wuz right on top da money, brah!

Howevas, one ting I like trow inside dis discushen for erryone fo tink about is dat no get too tight bebadeez about some of da diffarent commentz and poinz of vues, exspecially when you nevah meet da kine in person. Mos erry buggah I wen meet off Taropatch (I stay meet plenny), stay good peepos, no mattah weah dey from. Pua Kai inclooded, who I wen meet at Uncle George's workshop las year. No need pile on--she get plenny aloha. Bruddah Hiram Bell too--super talented kanaka, plenny misudastood if you nevah meet him, akamai, chillarious, good kine guy. Sheesh, even you and Braddah Jay stay good kine folks dispite da fact you guyz from town side .

Anyhowz, jus my 2-centz worth. No need fo get to trow blows stage if get stuffs we no agree wit, jus loosen da bebadeez lil bit. Been enjoying da talk story in dis tread, but I no moah too much time fo write much. Gotta spend da time fo practiss ki'hoalu and also fo break Guinness world records.

Aloha,

Doug


Edited by - PearlCityBoy on 07/02/2008 09:36:40 AM
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  10:26:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise

Da werd "fortwit" is pidgin fo "forthwith".
You shuah? It might just be the smart/clever guy that follows three other ones.
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  10:34:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No dat won is called nit, coz he stay following da udda wons.
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Momi
Lokahi

402 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:06:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, I waited a couple of days before wading into this thread. I saw Nancy's post, knew it was going to cause an uproar, and instead of making myself mad by keeping up with the thread, I just left it for a few days. My rule is if I can't post with aloha, I don't post. Please do not interpret that as an admonition to those who didn't wait - I completely understand the impulse.

Glennpachi has chosen to out his educational credentials, so I will too. I have a law degree. After passing the bar in two states, I decided not to practice law after all (I joke that I am unemployable in two jurisdictions). I am a woefully overqualified legal secretary, but I enjoy my job and the people I work with, so I count myself lucky (especially since I've finally paid off my student loans).

I will never disown my pidgin roots. I was lucky enough to know two of my great grandmothers, both first-generation Okinawan immigrants. The best English they could muster was pidgin. All four grandparents spoke pidgin, even the two who were teachers. One grandmother, who only has an eighth grade education, left school to work to help her family. She raised two of her husband's siblings as her own, in addition to her two birth kids. She may be "uneducated," but she's one of the smartest people I know and one of my heroes.

I've never met Nancy, but I've communicated with her off board, and I like her. Having calmed down a bit, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time, when a thread gets incendiary, I just leave it alone because I'm not good at putting things diplomatically like Gregg (and frankly, I'm not brave enough). This one hit a little too close to home for me to leave it alone.

'kay, den, nuff arready. Somboddy han me one cold one. Eh, Glenpachi, wat you wen catch lately? Get nuff wattah wea you stay, mus get someting fo catch o wat? An stay hot enuf wea Guava stay, he can fry 'em fo yu!

Edited by - Momi on 07/02/2008 11:15:37 AM
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:14:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Momi

Somboddy han me one cold one.
One cold one WAT? You no drink beeyah. Chry wait, chry wait - I getchu one watah.
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu

546 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:59:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Peter Medeiros's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Eh,how long you was living wid her anden, get her won beeyah an while you atit get me won too.
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Momi
Lokahi

402 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  12:26:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise

So no mind me. I just da janitah around heyah.


Eh, I still remembah da janitahs at my old elemtry school, brah. Dey was Mrs. Mahelona, Mrs. Lee, and Mrs. Silva. Dose ladies always took kea me.

My faddah used to tell me no be high makamaka around da janitahs. Dey da ones get da real powah. Dey can eidda make yo life mo easy oa misrable.

Wat, reddy fo one noddah one, brah? Like me pass da pupus o wat?
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  1:05:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I get one Associate degree from a community college. That's such a useful degree, I dunno even where the piece of paper is anymore.
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  2:16:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by guavasunrise

I get 98.6 degrees.
Wow - latest weather info from Daboonies, WA, says "100 degrees." Hope your a/c's working better this year.

Edited by - Retro on 07/02/2008 2:16:36 PM
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ypochris
Lokahi

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  5:14:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bla always did undah rate hisself- he tink he junk, peopo onleh lissen cuse ob da faddah. Mebbe he stay da bes toilet cleanh in da lan; but me I tink he stay one mean slat key playah too- ebben wen get a couple too many...
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Menpachi Man
Lokahi

274 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2008 :  5:27:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Momi
Eh, Glenpachi, wat you wen catch lately? Get nuff wattah wea you stay, mus get someting fo catch o wat? An stay hot enuf wea Guava stay, he can fry 'em fo yu!



I no catch noteeng good o hea. Oh wait, one time I catch bass, plenneh perch jalike mamo. One time catch catfeesh.

Da watah all paluted now. Moah beddah no catch noteeng. So wot den? U an Retro like go feesheeng wid me wen I go home? I go take u guyz gasagasa kine place.

I comeeng down from one manic phase goin into da low faze. I no can beleeve da stuff my altah-egos steh pos'. From pompos to elegant to vulgah to beef kine stuff to lolo to ahdonno wot. Buh fo u guyz no undastan me, I no like beef. I cheeken manua fo beef. Az all tahkeen play kine stuff but yea no can see da smile so going soun like fo realz. Sorreh! I realleh am socially retarded. Now humbug, coz I steh wait fo Baritone fo go slap me on da hed an ahdunno wen going come. Buh Al wen step in fo slap mah hed so dat woz good.

Momi, u won lawyah? Hoh, I shoudah led u write my legalese to Guava man.

So den Guava-man, I woz goin fo realz clean yo geetah, u neva peek up on dat. High gloss! heheh.

Edited by - Menpachi Man on 07/02/2008 5:44:16 PM
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