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Haolenuke
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 11/13/2010 : 09:10:10 AM
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In case there are Deadheads as well as Ledheads browsing this site, you might want to check out TheAccidentalsBand on YouTube. They even offer a Dark Star for your listening pleasure.
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2010 : 09:53:49 AM
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"Know why all the Deadheads move to Eugene?"
"There's no work…"
OK, sorry.
Although I never cared for the band (and yes, I have seen them live. Lots, including the infamous Altamont debacle) I have lately developed a fondness for the Dead's songwriting via a band of folkie virtuosi - a Celtic Grateful Dead jam band called Wake the Dead.
Once I could hear the lyrics sung in tune (sorry, Phil...), I changed my mind. Fantastic songwriting.
If you don't know about Wake The Dead, you oughta do yourself a favor and get hip: http://www.wakethedead.org/
Nose around and you can find some audio clips.
Here's a nice youtube vid: China Cat Sunflower into Bertha into some wild Balkan craziness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvECkaogXyU
Disclaimer: I've known these guys for 30 years or more. I have toured & recorded with Danny, I'm in a band with Kevin, & I've played with most of 'em over the years, eaten their food, drank their whiskey & sometimes slept on their couches.
So I'm entirely unbiased in my enthusiasm. 
My other favorite Dead tribute was an amazing CD called "Fire On the Mountain--Reggae Celebrates the Grateful Dead." Toots Hibbert singing "Catfish John"--now that's sublime!
hmmm, wonder if any of these songs would work in slack key?
After all, we've already heard that John Lennon song.....
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2010 : 08:03:33 AM
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Which wouldnʻt work?
I was playing a wedding in Wailea. They had asked for instrumental Hawaiian slack key only. I played through the ceremony, and as the guests were congratulating the couple, the bride turned to me and asked, "Do you know any Grateful Dead?". What are the odds she would have asked the only one on the island who could say, "Hiki no. Which of 200 songs you like?". |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2010 : 10:00:16 AM
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What are the odds she would have asked the only one on the island who could say, "Hiki no. Which of 200 songs you like?"
Cool!
Two questions:
What did you play?
And when's the CD coming out? |
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Larry Goldstein
Lokahi
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Posted - 11/14/2010 : 1:58:59 PM
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Growing up in "The City" (aka San Francisco) during the 60's, and having seen lots of GD shows, I can't resist a response. Mark - how sacrilegous!
Yes, Wake of the Dead is a lot of fun.
The latest reincarnation of the GD is Furthur; http://www.furthur.net/band
I've not heard them, but have many friends who have, and they say the musicianship is outstanding, and the energy is just great.
Larry
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2010 : 09:10:11 AM
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First song she asked for, of all tings, was Quinn The Eskimo. But then I played Tiny Bubbles into Truckingʻ, No Ke Ano Ahiahi into St. Stephen,Althea, Catfish John, Cold Rain And Snow and Ripple.
I do want to do an album. Years ago I asked Led, Dennis, Cyril and George if theyʻd do a cover Dead album, and their response was "Moʻ bettah you do ʻem, and weʻll back you up..." I replied, "Kʻden, give me ten years to get my chops up". Itʻs almost time. |
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Haolenuke
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 11/16/2010 : 05:45:39 AM
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Wow it sounds like I might see a Deadhead sticker on the back of a koa guitar.
Both Wake the Dead and Further sound very accomplished. Wake the Dead fills the folk/jazz part of Grateful Dead spectrum with excellent singing and impressive musical chops. The musical clip on Further's web page sounds like the original and the tricksters that did their web page provide a subtle little light show for the key tossing crowd.
TheAccidentalsBand that I referred to is obviously less polished, but it is certainly energetic.
Bwop, how about some YouTube videos? If you can really pull together your dream list of backup players, you are likely to embarrass the competition.
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2010 : 07:47:53 AM
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| Hiki no, but give me a few weeks. Iʻm really techno-challanged (itʻs not me- itʻs the cumbersome technology, right?). Also, I punish myself by always thinking I never record anything that sounds quite as good as when Iʻm playing guitar by myself in the shower. But, Iʻll get some things up. Mahalo for your suggestion. |
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 12/22/2010 : 07:50:28 AM
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K'den, it's been a "few weeks". I'm still stumped with ProTools, but I just pulled out the video camera to make a film for the mo'opuna, and put a few tunes down, mistakes and all, and lost my virginal technonaivite with YouTube. To wit: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBwop#p/u/4/7zaCff_Ug4Y is "Here Comes Sunshine" into Koke'e (all songs in Taro Patch tuned down to F- somehow no comments got posted on YouTub) (I meant that). Thank you, Uncle Ed.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBwop#p/u/2/8OSythLF1JU is "St. Stephen" into "No Ke Ano Ahiahi"
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBwop#p/u/0/Gw323kU56u4 is a bit of "Altea".
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBwop#p/u/1/e7kpvtuBYQQ is "Peggy-O", an old English ballad full of murder and mayhem (they like their beautiful music that way).
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBwop#p/u/3/EILB30irb-0 is "Radio Hula". Sorry, Led, I wasn't really paying attention in Napili. And, as I said, I sound mo' bettah playing guitar by myself in the shower at home.
K'den.
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garson
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 12/23/2010 : 7:02:07 PM
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Aloha BWOP,
Goes to show that Joni Mitchell got it wrong, all da slack key really came from the Dead.
Mele Kalikimaka
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 12/24/2010 : 07:09:32 AM
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Peggy-o comes from an old Scottish marching cadence, "The Bonnie Lass O Fyvie",not from England. Americans, . The more modern versions were popularized by Americans,probably learned from Ireland's Clancy Brothers.The American versions pale compared to the Scottish and Irish recordings. As the lyrics speak of a "troop o` Irish Dragoons", it is possible that it was originally an Irish marching cadence. Old marching cadences were rife with bawdy and often murderous themes, but at the time I was in the service, a good deal of this had been tamed. With the number of female troops we now have training alongside male soldiers, I suspect this has gone still further. Here's one of the earlier sets of lyrics, though probably not much earlier than mid 20th century.
There once was a troop o' Irish dragoons
Cam marching doon through Fyvie-o
And the captain's fa'en in love wi' a very bonnie lass
And her name it was ca'd pretty Peggy-o
There's many a bonnie lass in the Howe o Auchterless
There's many a bonnie lass in the Garioch
There's many a bonnie Jean in the streets of Aiberdeen
But the floower o' them aw lies in Fyvie-o
O come doon the stairs, Pretty Peggy, my dear
Come doon the stairs, Pretty Peggy-o
Come doon the stairs, comb back your yellow hair
Bid a last farewell to your mammy-o
It's braw, aye it's braw, a captain's lady for to be
And it's braw to be a captain's lady-o
It's braw to ride around and to follow the camp
And to ride when your captain he is ready-o
O I'll give you ribbons, love, and I'll give you rings
I'll give you a necklace of amber-o
I'll give you a silken petticoat with flounces to the knee
If you'll convey me doon to your chamber-o
What would your mother think if she heard the guineas clink
And saw the haut-boys marching all before you o
O little would she think gin she heard the guineas clink
If I followed a soldier laddie-o
I never did intend a soldier's lady for to be
A soldier shall never enjoy me-o
I never did intend to gae tae a foreign land
And I never will marry a soldier-o
I'll drink nae more o your claret wine
I'll drink nae more o your glasses-o
Tomorrow is the day when we maun ride away
So farewell tae your Fyvie lasses-o
The colonel he cried, mount, boys, mount, boys, mount
The captain, he cried, tarry-o
O tarry yet a while, just another day or twa
Til I see if the bonnie lass will marry-o
Twas in the early morning, when we marched awa
And O but the captain he was sorry-o
The drums they did beat o'er the bonnie braes o' Gight
And the band played the bonnie lass of Fyvie-o
Long ere we came to the Howe of Auchterless
We had our captain to carry-o
And long ere we won into the streets of Aberdeen
We had our captain to bury-o
Green grow the birks on bonnie Ythanside
And low lie the lowlands of Fyvie-o
The captain's name was Ned and he died for a maid
He died for the bonnie lass of Fyvie-o
Here's a video, by The Dubliners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLg2eZXTLcU&feature=related
I first learned this song from the recordings by Bob Dylan and Simon and Garfunkel. When I stumbled onto a Scott in a coffee shop, and heard his rendition of an early one, I knew there was more to the story, and started looking backwards.When you make chicken soup, ya gotta use chicken, not "the other white meat."
Unko Paul |
"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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Bwop
Lokahi
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 12/24/2010 : 9:44:14 PM
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Aloha e Unko Paul a me Jim,
Wow, those lyrics and story are great. One of the things that eased my transition from 30 years of Dead Head to 30 years of Led Head (almost) was that, with no help from Joni Mitchell, the Dead taught me how to listen to music. They had such an "Americana" eclectic mix; Garcia brought bluegrass, Phil brought classical and jazz, Pig Pen brought the blues, Bob brought acid/cowboy/? and Mickey even cut his musical teeth on Military drumming.
When I found Hawaiian culture, at first I wanted to divorce myself from my ha'ole non-culture. But, in going deeper, I found that it was necessary to actually fully appreciate my roots, who I am and where I came from. I have done that in spades (geneology research, 'ohana connection, etc.) and I find that I benefit from doing the same musically. Hawaiian music has never flinched in the face of exposure to any kind of music, and, I believe, this includes good 'ole rock 'n roll (Gabby once gave Cyril three tickets to go see Three Dog Night. When Cyril asked who the other ticket was for, he said "Me!". Dennis does like Metallica. George has recorded a bit of Cream. You get the picture.) Musicians are the embassadors of our world- it's crucial and important work.
As far as "Peggy-O", I've also heard it referred to as "Fenario", which seemed to be a ubiquitous generic reference to some place that sounded real but nobody quite knew where it was. And I don't know if anyone has ever conveyed my "doon" (sounds like fun, though).
And as far as chicken soup, my daddy used to say, "If we had ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had eggs...".
Please don't tell anyone I came from New Jersey. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 12/25/2010 : 5:52:05 PM
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| New Jersey has culture out the patoot. I used to know some great pickers up near the Water Gap. The first Dobro I tried was in NJ. Lots of ethnic stuff if one knows where to look. Never denigrate the Garden State, great folks and grinds. |
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Grateful Dead tribute band on YouTube
