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wcerto
Ahonui
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 Posted - 04/06/2011 : 01:11:36 AM
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Is the proper title of this mele Pauoa Liko Ka Lehua or Pauoa Ka Liko Ka Lehua? I have seen it both ways and heard it spoken of by title both ways. It is shown both ways in Amy Stillman's song index. Huapala shows Pauoa KA Liko Ka Lehua.
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Me ke aloha
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2011 : 05:24:17 AM
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"Morning Dew"
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 06:30:05 AM
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When it comes to song titles for island music, it's very much a "you say poh-TAY-toh, I say poh-TAH-toh" situation. Take the song "Ka`anoi" for example. True title (according to mele perfectionists) is "Aia I Alakai Ka`anoi" -- but most records/CDs give the shortened title. Ditto for "He`eia" (originally "Aia I He`eia")...and more.
I don't care what they call it, as long as the mele sounds wonderful! 
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 06:32:07 AM
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Mahalo for "Morning Dew", Retro. That's what Eddie Kamae told me is the actual title to his mele. Call it what you like...just be sure to play it well.  |
Auntie Maria
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 08:22:14 AM
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Auntie, I don't seem to be able to play anything well, but that's just me.
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"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 09:22:52 AM
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu
USA
580 Posts |
Posted - 04/07/2011 : 12:58:58 PM
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Originally posted by Auntie Maria
When it comes to song titles for island music, it's very much a "you say poh-TAY-toh, I say poh-TAH-toh" situation. Take the song "Ka`anoi" for example. True title (according to mele perfectionists) is "Aia I Alakai Ka`anoi" -- but most records/CDs give the shortened title. Ditto for "He`eia" (originally "Aia I He`eia")...and more.
On a very personal level, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But is this really how the haku mele themselves feel?
I would think that for so many composers who are sticklers for having their lyrics sung correctly, they would equally be sticklers for calling the songs by the titles they chose and not some variant.
I also think this can get confusing for musicians and dancers when somebody calls the tune - "Waianae" - and the other musicians or dancers yell, "Which one?"
~ Bill
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Hookani
Lokahi
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 1:45:46 PM
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2011 : 01:09:46 AM
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Hi Wanda, It could be you were wondering after I posted with the longer tittle last weekend.
FYI, this is how I decided: It was listed both ways on the same CD I had, "Pau Hana Party". The CD song title was Pauoa Liko Ka Lehua but the liner notes had the extra "Ka". So I went looking.
Hula Archives has it listed with two "Ka" and the lyrics also have two, Anyway, that's how I decided to go with Pauoa Ka Liko Ka Lehua.
Thanks for listing it in your weekly BTW.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2011 : 01:59:01 AM
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Howdy, Bob! Yes, I started wondering after I posted your video. I try to be as accurate as I can be iin using the titles of songs. Many times, though, I do post whatever the person who made the video put in their description on You Tube. I think this time, though, I took out the extra "ka" when I put the title of your piece on my weekly listing. It was very nice what you posted. Sweet as can be.
I figured as Bill said above - I want to call the song by what the haku mele intended. In this instance, I do not know what to use. |
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2011 : 03:15:19 AM
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Suggestion for thought Wanda, and please do not take this as being critical. I appreciate your efforts here.
Why not just use the title the poster used (in quotes of course) and let the poster take the heat for any errors. No sense in correcting someone elses mistake and possibly putting the error on yourself.
Do what ever you feel is right.
Personally, and I do not go overboard with this, I do try to get things right--the tittle, the credits, the style (usually), etc, and I Know I always offer up the best I have at that particular time. So in the end, unless I actually offended someone, I am not too worried about it.
Just to be sure now, I didn't mind that you changed the title I used.
Thanks for all you do, Wanda. |
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Edited by - RWD on 04/08/2011 03:17:26 AM |
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