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Lokahi
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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
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 Posted - 06/22/2011 : 5:16:07 PM
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| Eh, I'll never be serious enough to play pedal! ;) |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2011 : 5:16:34 PM
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2011 : 06:55:51 AM
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| The ad has been pulled. Pedal steels made before the middle 60's used cables, whaich are a pain because they stretch. Fine tuning was done by adhusting a turnbuckle on each cable. It's amazing how much fine steel plaaying was done on them. FYI, I have 2 pedal steels - my old mid-70's double 10 ShoBud, which I use for Cajun music, and my double 10 Carter, bought in 2002, - like driving a Porshe. Since I started playing Hawaiian steel, I don't get around to the pedal steels much. BTW, the Tavares brothers, Ernie and Freddy, prominent in Hawaiian music, were active in the development of the pedal steel. At first, pedals were used to change the tuning, say, from E to A, but, in the 60's Buddy Emmons and Jimmy Day figured out how to "split" the pedals so they only changed individual strings, mostly. |
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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
84 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2011 : 10:30:24 AM
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Hiya thumbstruck and slipry1, thanks for the thoughts. I have a friend, longtime jazz guitarist, who has taken up both pedal and lap, and he said about pedal steel that "she is a cruel mistress". So that's kinda what I meant - I don't have that kind of discipline. I know country steel was heavily influenced by Hawaiian steel (how could it not be?), especially Leon McAuliffe and Joaquin Murphey as far as I know, and naturally the addition of pedals didn't magically make that Hawaiian influence go away or something.
So I never meant to give the impression I thought pedal couldn't be Hawaiian! BTW there is a beautiful Joaquin Murphey tape, "Hawaii Forever" available through the Steel Guitar Forum as a download for $10 at http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=203310&highlight=joaquin murphey. Of course I am the newbie here so you might already know this. :) |
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justplainbill
Akahai
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 06:25:28 AM
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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
84 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2011 : 11:12:20 AM
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Don't know how I missed your post justplainbill, thanks. I always enjoy your posts here and on another forum we both frequent. :)
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Julie H
Ha`aha`a
USA
1206 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2011 : 8:36:52 PM
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Sigh,
I'm having enough trouble playing my little 6 strings without all those echo notes etc. Can't even imagine changing tunings in the middle of a song.
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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
84 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2011 : 06:06:25 AM
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I feel your pain JulieH. I'm really green, so it's an uphill battle, but well worth it as you know.
Damping and getting the bar really right ON the note every time are my biggest challenges right now. I do love old country music, but quite a lot of what I love is non-pedal: Jerry Byrd, Leon McAuliffe, Don Helms, Billy Briggs are the guys that inspire me. There are lots of country pedal steel songs I enjoy, though I don't think I could name the players.
But when it comes to Hawaiian and pedal, it barely exists at all, though Basil H. does it very well. |
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 6:36:58 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Anderson
Hiya thumbstruck and slipry1, thanks for the thoughts. I have a friend, longtime jazz guitarist, who has taken up both pedal and lap, and he said about pedal steel that "she is a cruel mistress". So that's kinda what I meant - I don't have that kind of discipline. I know country steel was heavily influenced by Hawaiian steel (how could it not be?), especially Leon McAuliffe and Joaquin Murphey as far as I know, and naturally the addition of pedals didn't magically make that Hawaiian influence go away or something.
So I never meant to give the impression I thought pedal couldn't be Hawaiian! BTW there is a beautiful Joaquin Murphey tape, "Hawaii Forever" available through the Steel Guitar Forum as a download for $10 at http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=203310&highlight=joaquin murphey. Of course I am the newbie here so you might already know this. :)
Murphey played non-pedal steel, as far as I know and have seen on YouTube. No pedals there. |
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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 05:55:33 AM
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I know it slipry1; the pictures I can find of him show a triple-neck non-pedal guitar, possibly a custom job.
Frankly I can't understand why anyone wanting to learn Hawaiian steel would play pedal! They're much more expensive and challenging to learn, plus the whole repertoire was created on non-pedal and is therefore all playable on non-pedal. |
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bigsby, if you are serious about steel...
