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les_maverick
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 06/27/2011 : 04:35:13 AM
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Hi All
I checked the archive and could not find anything about stage mics.
Can any one suggest a stage mic that can pickup 2 - 3 singers ?
Thanks,
Les
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2011 : 06:15:40 AM
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Depends how close they are going to be to each other, how much background noise there will be, and how adept the singers are at balancing their volumes. Omni directional mics will pick up everything in the room, and in a coffee shop type environment the crowd might be louder than the singers. I used one once and the pool tables were a real problem. Outside, street traffic would be an issue. Using only one mic means you can't boost the quiet voice to match the loud voice, or EQ one voice without changing every one. Separate mics is really the best way, except with large choral groups, etc.
Unko Paul |
"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2011 : 06:45:16 AM
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Lawrence is very, very knowledgeable about sound systems for performing. Let's hope he chimes in, also.
I do not know what kind of mics they used at the slack key festival at Kapi`olani Park last August, but all I heard was Patrick. I couldn't hear you guys playing at all, and I was in the front row.
At the Waimea Valley kanikapila, everyone has their own mic. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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Doug Fitch
Akahai
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2011 : 12:44:42 AM
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| Hi, I've used just a regular old mic (SM58 or similar) with my brother and sister on stage for years. We just crowd around that thing and belted it out. Real bluegrass style is/was to have a pretty hot mic and have all the players and singers stand around it in a semi-circle. When time came for solos it was a real dance as each performer slid up closer to the mic. This requires a very tight group and good ears and that might contribute to why those harmonies are/were so great. Less is more I guess I"m trying to say. |
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les_maverick
Lokahi
USA
238 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2011 : 8:24:45 PM
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Thanks for all the information. We are going to try and crank up the gain and try two people on
each mic.
Mahalo,
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2011 : 07:33:51 AM
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Thanks for the compliment Wanda. As was mentioned the best suggestion is to use a separate mic for each singer and more channels on the mixer. Different singers sing at different levels and distances from the mic so the best way to balance them is separate mics/channels.
That being said, some modern "retro" bluegrass bands are into using just one or two mics for the whole group and they dance toward and away from the mic as they take their breaks or do fill vocals, etc. This takes lots of practice and very good control of each individuals personal loudness. In this case the performers likely use a wider than normal pattern cardioid (sometimes called a choral mic) and group on one side of it or they use a figure-8 and group on both sides. I just watched Steve Martin using a modified version of this approach at the 4th of July concert on the Capitol Mall.
There is not a hell-of-a-lot of difference in the pattern width of a "choral" mic and a regular cardioid so you can get away with an SM58 if your singers have adequate control of themselves.
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Mahope Kākou...
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Edited by - Lawrence on 07/12/2011 07:35:29 AM |
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a
USA
1055 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2011 : 08:10:57 AM
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You also have to watch some body don't knock you in the head with the sticking-out end of a guitar or banjo!It might make it get out of tune. Or, as Ma usta say;"You'll poke your eye out!"
Unko Paul |
"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello |
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les_maverick
Lokahi
USA
238 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2011 : 12:19:59 PM
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Hi All:
Thanks for all the suggestions.
We are going with three individual mics and 4 shared mics.
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