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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
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 Posted - 03/25/2004 : 01:57:40 AM
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Patch People,
Is there anyone out there that does Adios Ke Aloha? Would appreciate some help on chords and correct chord breaks.
Had a very nice young lady show me the chords several weeks ago, but as she was both young and nice, and I had indulged in perhaps one-and-a-half too many adult beverages, my concentration was not as it should have been--so, it's (not surprisingly) come out a bit hazy. Have thus been trying to flesh it out as best as I can, and have come up with the following (in C):
[C]E ku`u [A7]belle o ka [D]po la`i la`i,
Ka [G]lawe malie [F]a ka ma[C]hina
[C]Ko ani[A7]ani mai [D]nei e ke ahe
`A[G]hea `oe ho`olono [C]mai.
Hui:
[C]`Ahea [E7]`oe, [Am]`ahea [F]`oe,
[C]`Oe ho`olono [C]mai
[C]I [A7]nei [D]leo nahenahe.
A[G]dios, a[G7]dios ke [F]alo[C]ha.
Is this anywhere close to being where it should? Also, if anyone knows the final two verses, would appreciate some pointers on chord breaks (where the chord changes should go inside the lyrics).
E ka hau`oli `iniki pu`u wai,
E ke aloha e maliu mai `oe,
Ke ho`olale mai ne e ke iiu,
Ua anu ka wao i ka ua.
Ho`okahi kiss dew drops he ma`u ia,
E ka belle o ka noe lihau,
Eia au la e ke aloha,
Ke huli ho`i nei me ka neo.
Also, what would be a good, standard baseline vocal version (on CD) to use for fixing the melody/lyrics?
Tanks plenty.
-dean
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
1635 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2004 : 4:24:34 PM
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Here's the song as found in "He Mele Aloha" - you had right words except for Kiu in second verse. Chord sign appears just before the syllable on which it is supposed to be played/sung.
Clearly this is in F. To put it into G, like for Taro Patch, substitute:
F becomes G, Bb becomes C, G7 becomes A7, C7 becomes D7.
Enjoy - and get the book, it's worth every penny.
(F) E ku`u belle o ka [Bb]po la`i(G7)la`i,
Ka [C7]lawe malie a ka (F) mahina
Koaniani mai [Bb]nei e ke (G7)ahe
`A[C7]hea `oe ho`olono [F]mai.
Hui:
[f]`Ahea `oe, `ahea [Bb]`oe,
[F]`Oe ho`olono mai
I [D7]nei [G7]leo nahenahe.
Adi(C7)os, adios ke [F]aloha.
E (F)ka hau`oli `in(Bb)iki pu`u(G7)wai,
E ke a(C7)loha e ma(F)liu mai `oe,
Ke ho`olale mai (Bb)ne e ke (G7)Kiu,
Ua (C7)anu ka wao i ka(f)ua.
Ho`o(f)kahi kiss dew (Bb)drops he ma`u i(G7)a,
E ka (C7)belle o ka (F)noe lihau,
Eia au la (Bb)e ke a(G7)loha,
Ke (c7)huli ho`i nei me ka (f)neo. |
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2004 : 7:25:39 PM
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Thanks much, Raymond.
Actually tried to purchase the book from a link supplied by someone here, but upon clicking on the 'checkout' button was taken to the Yahoo payment center, which required a further 'registration.' Laytahs on that. The other vendor I found online for it charges an exorbitant amount for shipping and 'handling.' Laytahs on that too.
Anyway, thanks, will plug this in and see how it comes out.
-dean
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
2187 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 01:33:56 AM
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| Dean, the book is 290 pages and weighs 3 pounds so unfortunately shipping IS going to be on the steep side, especially to Japan. (It runs $5.50 to $6.75 on the sites I've seen to mainland U.S.) |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 02:57:28 AM
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Just in case some of us are in da outer orbit of patchland...what book are we talkin' bout?
Thought I had all the right books..but not any with dat many pages, cept the dictionary an da bible...
Someone has to ride in da back of da herd! Darn dusty back here too!
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Admin
Pupule
USA
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
2187 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 10:26:35 AM
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| Rats...I never thought to check Barnes and Noble. I just paid full price for it! |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 7:47:18 PM
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Hi -
Great song -- one of my alltime fav's.
One thing you should know is that there are several very different melodies going around for this set of words. The chords in He Mele Aloha are fine for one way to harmonize it, but don't work for the version I know, which has a II chord change in both the verse and chorus. Of course, that's probably my own weird way of harmonizing it. I originally got it from Kindy Sprout, but reworked it for a cowboy singer named Loraine Rawls a bunch of years ago.
Who's version are you trying to learn?
Which is why I wish somebody would add line of melody notation to the dang songbooks. What the heck use is a bunch of chords if you don't know the melody??? End of rant.
happy playing!
Mark |
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
1635 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 7:55:44 PM
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Mark - completely agree about that melody thing. It really makes He Mele Aloha much less useful than it could be. The authors claim it is for a Hawaiian audience, people who sing these songs, etc. I gave a copy to a Hawaiian friend (guy in his mid 50's) and he didn't know half the songs...
Oh well, still a lot better than nothing.
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2004 : 7:56:00 PM
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Yeah! - more RANT
AND add Chord Changes above the TABS so we can know what
the underlying chord is at any given point!
I.M.H.O. E.O.R. (end of rant)
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Mahope Kākou...
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2004 : 11:38:58 AM
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quote:
Who's version are you trying to learn?
Thanks for all the input.
The problem is that I don't really have a base 'version' that I'm trying to figure out--it's pretty much a composite (proto, perhaps) version that's floating around with all the other detrius accumulated over these 50+ years in my increasingly 'dry brain'.
Whatever. Since trying to talk about it in words is kinda like trying to describe the blueness of the sky, or just how big and nice that fish was that jumped right off the spear, the link below is a really rough version of the tune in my head. I bunged into my wife's iMac using the internal mic, so it may be a little difficult to hear, but hopefully it's enough to give an idea of the melody.
<URL deleted>
The updated chords for the above tune:
[C]E ku`u belle o ka [D]po la`i la`i,
Ka [G]lawe malie a ka [F]mahi[C]na
[C]Ko aniani mai [D]nei e ke ahe
`A[G]hea `oe ho`olono [C]mai.
Hui:
[C]`Ahea [E7]`oe, [Am]`ahea [F]`oe,
[C]`Oe ho`olono [C]mai
[C]I [A7]nei [D]leo nahenahe.
A[G]dios, a[G7]dios ke [F]alo[C]ha.
Does this sound anywhere to the version you know/do?
Also, can anyone recommend a good baseline version available on CD?
tanks
-dean
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2004 : 7:27:17 PM
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Also, can anyone recommend a good baseline version available on CD?
The melody I learned is on Kindy Sproat's solo CD Songs and Storys of Hawaii.
He also sings it on a wonderful two cassette album called Na Mele Paniolo that's dang near impossible to find (I bought the last 5 copies at the Parker Ranch and gave them to everyone I knew...)
There's a wonderful version with a completely different melody on a Warner Brothers CD that came out a few years ago, also called Na O Mele Paniolo, if memory serves. Kindy Sproat's on this one, too. Highly recommended.
Here's a link to a source for both the solo CD and the Na Mele O Paniolo CD: http://www.mele.com/v3/artcat/kindy.htm
I'm pretty sure Leabert Lindsey has also recorded it it.
For something kinda different, it's on Plains Born, Lorraine Rawls` award winning 1998 CD. I wrote a set of words in English for her (she sang the chorus in Hawaiian), and played slack key on that and a few other cuts. You can find it here:
http://www.lorrainerawls.com/
How's that?
cheers,
Mark
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2004 : 9:24:11 PM
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Thanks much, Mark.
Will see if I can track any of these down over here.
-dean
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
2187 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2004 : 01:55:23 AM
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| Just one more thing to add with respect to the lack of melody notes in He Mele Aloha. This is what the authors have to say on the matter: "Melody and phrasing is not provided--you must know the song to sing it. Most of these songs have been recorded, and one purpose of this book is to encourage support of Hawai`i's composers and entertainers." |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Sarah
`Olu`olu
571 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2004 : 2:48:16 PM
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Aloha mai e Dean,
I found I have a Charles King version in one of the King collection books. This one is the melody Nani Lim Yap uses on the CD Mark cited, Na Mele o Paniolo. King's arrangement is in the key of G.
King credits Leleihoku for writing the song, and the King arrangement is Copyrighted 1942 in my book, which is a red paperback called "Great Songs of Hawaii" by Charles King, edited by James C. Armstrong, and published by Pacific Coast Music, San Francisco, CA. The book doesn't say when it is published, but there is a logo on the titlepage which says "Christmas Cactus est. 1959", and the style of the book is sort of 60s-70s.
A note on the title page says the the selections in this collection are from "King's Book of Hawiian Melodies" and "Kings's Songs of Hawaii" as published by Hansen House.
I just did an oop search and found a used copy of the book: http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=197753384
BTW, Nani Lim Yap's voice is gorgeous, worth hearing regardless! and you could surely figure out the chord changes in those last two verses by listening to her.
Aloha,
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2004 : 9:15:36 PM
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Thank you, Sarah, for the info.
It must be from the King "Green," as I have the "Blue" (Hawaiian Melodies) and it's not in there. (Trlau, if you're still out there and listening, do you find it in the "Green", or is this yet another volume of King stuff [Songs of HI] that we're talking about here?)
Will beat the bushes over here for a copy of that CD--at least to give it a listen. I've had a quite a few people recommend it to me over the past several years, but never got around to picking it up.
Thanks
-dean
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