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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2004 : 02:33:12 AM
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I'm working on several tunes using Drop D "standard" I'm pretty comfortable there...
But I haven't gone to D 6 add 9 or whatever yet--but am thinkin' maybe if I'm explorin' out of D and D capoed key centers... it's time to take a look..
Anybody got any favorite D tunings or tricks? Or favorite recordings? gorDon
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2004 : 6:23:09 PM
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Gordon, I have no tricks or favorites, but i met a fellow in Maui about 18 months ago who played a lot of his slack key in open D. His name is Kalani Smythe. Don't know if i still have his contact info, but i will try to dig it up for you Karl |
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kihoalukid
Lokahi
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 05/24/2004 : 7:42:25 PM
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Bla Pahinui's Dancing Cat album "Mana" is all in drop D standard tuning. Great guitar playing. |
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Admin
Pupule
USA
4551 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 12:56:28 AM
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Makana plays some songs in drop D, some of the originals on his first album, I think. Then again, someone told me that he can play 50 tunings! |
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 05/25/2004 : 01:19:56 AM
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It may not be hardcore slack key, but at least some of Olomana's songs are in D tunings dropped down a step to an E.
aloha, keith
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2004 : 01:56:10 AM
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I find it helpful to relate patterns...to standard, or dropped D, or taropatch and betwixt and between. The 3 or 4 string harmonized scale patterns in standard are useful in my brain, and the common elements of Dropped D, Taropatch, C Wahine, and Leonard's C etc.--and the patterns of alteration/adaption etc... Obviously we don't want to learn an entirely different vocabulary for each tuning variant!
Guess it's sort a like the Romance or Polynessian languages--easy for some to inter-relate common elements...but difficult for me!
Well,Ya can't know everything; where would you put it?
And the beat goes on... Do they give Doctorates in B.S.? |
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
USA
90 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2004 : 5:47:48 PM
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I guess, theoretically anyway, that it is considered slack key if you just 'slack' one 'key', namely drop the 6th string down from E to D. If so, I guess it would still be considered slack key if you were to 'slack' all 6 keys down two frets, so that you still have Standard Tuning except that the sound is a little lower? If so, many rock groups have been playing slack key for years. It is the reverse of using a capo to go UP, you just go DOWN, but the relative spacing is still the same. It is food for thought, but I think that slack key playing may involve more than just the way the guitar strings are slacked, or, as in Keola's case, tightened.
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 05/26/2004 : 8:13:45 PM
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hi bill,
i agree with you. i think of "slack key" as being a style of playing which includes alternate tunings. for example, long-sustained notes and a strong bass line are common to slack key, both of which are nicely supported by using alternate tunings.
one of my favorite relaxation songs is elizabeth cotton's version of "spanish fandango" (she called it spanish flang-dang), which she played in taropatch. i don't think that anyone would classify this as "slack key" despite it being a sentimental three-chord major key song. but, cyril pahinui's "panini pua kea" doesn't sound really slack-keyish to me either. i like 'em both, though.
mutter.
aloha, keith
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/27/2004 : 04:28:28 AM
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I try to keep an open mind ...there are no WRONG NOTES, but there might be BETTER NOTES. Thus, There are no WRONG TUNINGS, there are different (perhaps better) ways to tune and play a song...All with ALOHA... There are many roads home.
Some slack artists play in standard tunings occassionally...while "regular" players play in open G and don't even know about taropatch philosophy!
In defense of Dropped D, consider for your amusement, my friends--in C Wahine, there's times when only the two lowest strings get slacked, creating the root and 5th of "Home" in C, while the rest of the guitar is Standard...SO, by extension, it makes sense to play in D--with D and A for the low Root and 5th---NO it's not a big change, or a large amount of slacking, but IT'S USEFUL...I'm going to use it! Is it true slack? Don't know.
But will always return to Taropatch! Gordo |
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