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wdf
Ha`aha`a

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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  3:53:11 PM  Show Profile
I don't know how much truth there is in this article, but it's worth a laugh. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3081613a4560,00.html

Dusty

Edited by - wdf on 11/03/2004 3:54:12 PM

cpatch
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Posted - 11/03/2004 :  5:51:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
It's completely true...in fact there are several groups devoted to scamming the so-called "419" scammers. For example:

http://www.scambuster419.co.uk

I can't find it at the moment, but somewhere I saw a Web site that was devoted to getting the scammers to send photos of themselves in ridiculous poses.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.
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Pupule

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Posted - 11/05/2004 :  10:15:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Check this article. In one month, "10,000 credit card orders, each for $39.95"?!?! Whoa!
Two Guilty in First Felony Spam Conviction
Wednesday November 3, 6:39 pm ET
By Matthew Barakat, Associated Press Writer
Two Who Sent Unsolicited Junk E-Mail to Millions on AOL Guilty in First Felony Spam Conviction


LEESBURG, Va. (AP) -- A brother and sister who sent junk e-mail to millions of America Online customers were convicted Wednesday in the nation's first felony prosecution of Internet spam distributors.

Jurors recommended that Jeremy Jaynes, 30, be sentenced to nine years in prison and fined Jessica DeGroot, 28, $7,500 after convicting them of three counts each of sending e-mails with fraudulent and untraceable routing information.

A third defendant, Richard Rutkowski, 30, was acquitted after deliberations of 1 1/2 days. All three defendants live in the Raleigh, N.C., area.

Prosecutors compared Jaynes and DeGroot to modern-day snake oil salesmen who use the Internet to peddle junk like a "FedEx refund processor" that supposedly allowed people to earn $75 an hour working from home.

In one month alone, Jaynes received 10,000 credit card orders, each for $39.95, for the processor.

"This was just a case of fraud," said prosecutor Gene Fishel. "This is a snake oil salesman in a new format."

Prosecutor Russell McGuire said Jaynes amassed a net wealth of $24 million peddling worthless products like the refund processor and other products like a "penny stock picker" and an Internet history eraser.

"He's been successful ripping people off all these years," McGuire said.

Prosecutors had asked the jury to impose a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison for Jaynes, and to consider some amount of jail time for his sister, whom they acknowledged was less culpabale.

Defense lawyers asked jurors to spare the defendants prison terms.

David Oblon, representing Jaynes, argued that it was inappropriate for prosecutors to seek what he called an excessive punishment, given that this is the first prosecution under the Virginia law. He also noted that his client, a North Carolina resident, would have been unaware of the Virginia law.

Oblon called the jury's recommendation of nine years in prison shocking.

"Nine years is absolutely outrageous when you look at what we do to people convicted of crimes like robbery and rape," Oblon said.

When Jaynes and DeGroot are formally sentenced in February, Circuit Court Judge Thomas Horne will have the option of reducing the jury's sentence or leaving it intact. He cannot increase it.

Horne also has not yet ruled on an earlier motion asking that the cases be dismissed. He said during the trial that he had a hard time allowing the prosecution of DeGroot and Rutkowski to go forward to the jury.

The attorney Oblon said Jaynes "is convinced of his innocence" and he expects the conviction will eventually be set aside.

Even if Horne refuses to set aside the verdict, Oblon can appeal and challenge the new law on constitutional grounds. The defendants have said the law is an unconstitutional infringement of free speech.

Virginia prosecuted the case under a law that took effect last year which bars people from sending bulk e-mail that is unsolicited and masks its origin. AOL, which is based in Dulles, Va., is a unit of New York-based Time Warner Inc.

Numerous AOL employees testified during the two-week trial, and Oblon complained that prosecutors often seemed to be prosecuting the case at AOL's bidding. He noted that Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore announced indictments in the case last year at a press conference at AOL's Dulles headquarters.

"It appears at times that AOL was basically taking over the criminal prosecution," Oblon said.

Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore called Virginia's anti-spam law the toughest in America.

"Spam is a nuisance to millions of Americans, but it is also a major problem for businesses large and small because the thousands of unwanted e-mails create havoc as they attempt to conduct business," Kilgore said in a statement.

Andy
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