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jmk
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 02/11/2005 : 2:41:22 PM
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Rather than strumming G7-C7-F, I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on how to fingerstyle a vamp when playing a song in the key of F while in Taropatch tuning.
Mahalo for any ideas.
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 5:15:52 PM
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Jeri,
I read you question a couple times to dicipher what you were really asking. When I think of "vamp" I think of the standard slack key turnaround. If I'm playing with Uke players in F, I will tune to Drop C and just play chords (F-Bb-C). If I need to play vamps and slack key stylings, I still go to Drop C, but capo to the 5th fret. The "vamp", counting from the capo is 2nd string 5th fret, 4th string 5th fret - to - 2nd string 3rd fret, 4th string 3rd fret - to - 2nd string 1st fret, 4th string 2nd fret (the F chord capoed at 5 playing a C shape chord). Hope this isn't too confusing.
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2005 : 07:41:51 AM
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| To play in "F", in Taro Patch "G", I do one of 2 things. I either capo up to the 5th fret and play in "C" position, or I capo on the 3rd fret and play in "D" position. I discovered that if you can find the vamp ( turnaround sounds so "mainland" ), it's easy to figure out tunes. If "F" is really necessary, use "F-wahine" (check with Mark in the forum) or "D" or "D-wahine" capoed on the 3rd fret. |
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jmk
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2005 : 7:03:07 PM
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Mahalo Dave and Kory,
Yes, I was thinking turn-around, in the group I am playing with, we just call it vamp, they are the same. And yes, they are playing ukuleles and I am playing guitar. I can perhaps drop the #6 string to C, but there is not a lot of time for tuning. Now I need to work on learning how to play with the capo (unless I can ignore the #6 string?).
Thank you for being very helpful.
Aloha,
Jeri
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
86 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 8:17:15 PM
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Jeri,
For a quick tuning switch from Taro Patch to Drop C (slacking #6 string to C or its equivalent for whatever absolute tuning you happen to be in), try synching the harmonic on #5 string, 12th frett, with the harmonic on #6 string, 7th fret.
Any of the other strings that may be pulled out of tune by this change are just chalked up to added musical "flavor"....
To go back to Taro Patch: synch the harmonic on #4 string, 12th fret, with the harmonic on #6 string, 5th fret.
HTH
-dean
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RJS
Ha`aha`a
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 5:12:37 PM
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I must not be understanding the question.
Easiest way for me to play in key of F is to take G taropatch and just slack all the strings i whole step. You can then play as if you are playing in G, but you sound as if you are playing in F.
If the question is that you are playing with others and for 1 number they switch to F, the way George K. taught me is to pick a turnaround on the C shape on the first 2 frets, resolving to the first string 3rd fret, but you'll miss the C in the bass. You can also use a Bar at 5, and pick it from there. Maybe I'm missing something, though, 'cause I don';t often play with others.
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 5:27:12 PM
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Since Jeri said there's not much time, then detuning her guitar is probably not an option to drop 6 strings a whole step. So I think detuning 1 string to C and using a capo at the 5th fret (even though you don't believe in that) is a better option.
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BreezePlease
Akahai
Japan
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 7:23:57 PM
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Also, depending on how many numbers in your set are in F (or how ukulele-oriented your group may be), another option would be to do as Raymond suggested and slack Taro Patch to F, capoing on the 2nd fret whenever you need G. Drop C in this case would put you in Bb, also a nice key to sing in...
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
826 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2005 : 05:55:00 AM
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dean,
That's a very good suggestion. I don't play with many uke players, but if I did I'd probably do that. Heaven forbid we should ask a uke player to capo to the second fret or play barre chords.
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2005 : 06:12:43 AM
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| I'm with Raymond. My guitar prefers Taro Patch F (this seems to be common with Goodalls, as I know that Keith Marzullo tunes his to F) and I capo up two frets to do G. |
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Crotalus
Aloha
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2005 : 2:21:10 PM
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| I usually keep my guitar tuned to taropatch F also then capo to G when I need it. It's more in my singing range (when no one is listening). I've done this while playing with a group of ukuleles for quick changes. |
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jmk
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2005 : 4:27:41 PM
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Aloha kâkou!
Mahalo for the help, it is appreciated.
Once again this website is an excellent service.
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