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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
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 Posted - 05/15/2005 : 6:45:20 PM
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I've done a little looking---but may be missing the obvious places...
I'm hooked on the song
"Papa E",
heard on the new Hapa cd,
but originally from a New Zealand group...Te Vaka, and written by Opetaia Fao'i.
Didn't find lyrics yet...
How different is the Pan Polynesian and New Zealand area's language/dialect from Hawaiian...slight or extreme?
Of course, I'm still hooked on Phonics.
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2005 : 7:33:25 PM
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Got it...
so easy,
Te Vaka lyrics site, scroll down.
THERE ARE SOME DIALECT NOTES THERE, especially refering to "wh" and one other sound...gotta be something about the "f"...not one of our normal Hawaiian letters, right?!
Anyway, here's the basic lyrics...
PAPA E
Hihiki mai i faifaiga a te fenua
E he puli au ite olaga masani,
He mafai fakapule ite loto...
Ite loto o papa e,
Aue ite muke o papa e.
CHORUS
Aue aue papa e/ Aue papa e
Aue aue papa e/i te muku o papa e
Oku mokomokoga ke toe fanatu
I mea na emasani ai
Ko Kata lava e mua mai
Te kata o papa e
Aue i ti nuku o papa e.
But I love any help with ACCURATE translation and meaning!--if it's of interest...thanks.
And, there's always a chance I can't read my own writing!
And my tpying?
How am I doing?
I'll start with Pukui/Elbert BIG dictionary...
but that will be literal, and may not work for all of this...
Anyway, I'll think about that tomorrow!
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Edited by - Kapila Kane on 05/15/2005 7:37:11 PM |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2005 : 3:30:06 PM
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Hey, which Te Vaka album??
And more importart, where'd you get it???
I have heard a CD on Rarotonga 5 years ago and it knocked me out. Since then I've ordered copies on-line (Amazon, others) several times, but no one's ever delivered.
What I heard on that CD was the most exciting music I've heard in years.
Cheers,
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duke
Lokahi
USA
163 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2005 : 3:56:46 PM
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Mark:
The Kahului Border's usually has prominent display with Te Vaka's material, including a fairly recent DVd. You'll be in the neighborhood soon. Stop in and shop!
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2005 : 07:26:30 AM
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Great news.
I'll check it out.
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2005 : 11:51:54 AM
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Te Vaka has a website I was GOING to order from, but is this the one that didn't come through...?
Hapa's version has nice depth, rhythm and low punch...especially the percussion and bass are significant!
Gotta get a percussion coach, even if it's just to understand better...
Mark, I have some delinquent copies for you...sorry.
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Edited by - Kapila Kane on 05/19/2005 8:47:52 PM |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2005 : 12:46:08 PM
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Yo Ho -
No worries. Send 'em when you can.
RE: Te Vaka CDs
I'd ordered from Amazon. Twice. Never got 'em. That was before I learned how Amazon does (did?) business.
I'll follow Duke's advice & buy 'em on Maui.
later,
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2005 : 8:45:54 PM
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Not getting very far with the translating...
was using little dictionary, but will try the mongo Hawaiian...but seems I"ll need a Who's got Polynesian/Tokelau dialect helper?
The Te Vaka lyrics site has some pronunciation help...(f=wh) and (s=h)
but doesn't explain "g"...seems to be "n" ...I think....
It wasn't enough to struggle with Hawaiian...
But if you're gonna go off the deep end (musically), then the Pacific is the perfect place.
I couldn't stop with Hawaii...
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Edited by - Kapila Kane on 05/19/2005 8:49:46 PM |
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Mark E
Lokahi
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2005 : 6:34:24 PM
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Mark -
I'm sold. If you find your Te Vaka CD, I'd be most interested to know which one you found so exciting.
Kia Orana,
Mark (E) |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2005 : 08:53:45 AM
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Hi -
I picked up "Ki Mua," their 2nd CD, on Rarotonga. It is flat-out one of the most exciting CDs I'd heard in years. Very much influenced by the world music scene -- I'm pretty sure they've listened to a lot of Johhny Glegg & Savuka as well as U2. So you've got rock instruments, plus log rums and log drum rhythms, plus way cool harmonies and socially-conscious songs.
If you think Polynesian music is supposed to sound like slack key, this will surprise you. Personally, I wish the kids in Hawaii would get hip to this kind of music and leave the bad Jamaican accents to the hippies...
I'm off to Maui on Monday, and I plan to buy everything they got at Borders.
I talked to a friend who saw their show at the Maui Cultural Center two weeks ago: she described it as "Uplifting & life-affirming." Cool, huh?
Cheers,
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`Ilio Nui
`Olu`olu
USA
826 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2005 : 4:05:38 PM
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I'll have a log rums and coke. Actually, Mark turned me onto this stuff a year ago. Way cool. Beats the heck out of Jawaiian (of course, so did Sugar Sugar by the Archies)
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Puna
Lokahi
USA
227 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2005 : 06:15:58 AM
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Hey, I really liked 'Sugar Sugar'!
Of course, I was only nine...
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2005 : 4:24:33 PM
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I have the translation for "Sugar, Sugar"...
it took awhile, but I'll share as soon as I get permission.
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