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Fez
Aloha

New Zealand
19 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  8:34:46 PM  Show Profile
Kia ora,
I wish to lower the action on my tenor uke to make barre chord playing more easy.From what I've read people talk about string height at the twelth fret to measure action.
I would be interested to hear what people have their ukes set at to get some idea about what I should be able to get away with.
Didn't get any advice from my last post about a loud low G string hope I'm more successful this time.
arohanui
Brian

Arohanui
Fez

cpatch
Ahonui

USA
2187 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  07:04:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
I read 0.10" somewhere but I think that may have been for a concert. Not sure if it makes a difference.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.
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cheeba
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Posted - 09/01/2005 :  10:31:13 AM  Show Profile  Send cheeba an AOL message  Send cheeba a Yahoo! Message
does fiddling with the height effect the intonation at all?
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 09/01/2005 :  11:14:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage
Cheeba, there is definitely a relationship between action and intonation. Higher action = more stretching = greater offset for proper intonation.

Fez, be sure to evaluate the nut _before_ adjusting the bridge. Both ends control action (string distance from frets) and the recommended procedure is to get the nut to the right height first.

Frank Ford is one of the premier guitar technicians. He maintains a website with lots of information on guitar setup and repair, and the info on definitely applies to ukuleles.

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/pagelist.html

Fran

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KoAloha
Akahai

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  3:15:16 PM  Show Profile
Hi Fez,

I usually use .110" as a good starting point for my customs. This gives the instrument a nice, bright tone and it's easy to play. This is somewhat of a generic adjustment and other factors, such as scale length, type of strings, and nut adjustment all add to the equation.

I wouldn't go any lower than .100", because you start to get into 'the buzz zone'. It is possible, but like I said, .110" is a good 'one size fits all' measurement that should suit a majority of people.

Also, be careful not to alter the adjustment too much. Anything over .010" and you'll probably be better off re-filing the nut.

Aloha,
Paul
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Fez
Aloha

New Zealand
19 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  4:55:13 PM  Show Profile
I'm sad to say I got a bit carried away last night when sanding the bottom of the plastic bridge plate. Now I'v got some buz under 2 of the 8 strings.
I've always been one who has to learn from my mistakes!!
Guess I'll have to put a plastic shim underneath it now to raise it!'
Thanks for the help Paul.
Arohanui

Arohanui
Fez
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KoAloha
Akahai

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2005 :  08:43:45 AM  Show Profile
Fez,

What size is the saddle slot? E-mail me the details and I'll see if I can dig up an extra saddle for you.
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Fez
Aloha

New Zealand
19 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2005 :  1:00:57 PM  Show Profile
I appreciate the offer Paul, thanks.
I used a bit of Kiwi ingenuiety and cut a plastic shim out of an old icecream container.
Only brought it up about 1mm but it was enough and the action is great now.
For some reason that I cannot explain, lowering the action seems to have taken a bit of the twang out of the wound G string without effecting the tone of the others as well.
Maybe icecream plastic doesn't conduct metal vibes so well??

Arohanui
Fez
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KoAloha
Akahai

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2005 :  5:33:13 PM  Show Profile
Generally speaking, you'll lose some twang, as you lower the action. As you raise the action, you gain volume, to a certain point.
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timbo
Aloha

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2005 :  08:53:11 AM  Show Profile
I just lowered the action on my new pineapple by sanding down the saddle. Definitely noticed a decrease in volume and resonance(not to mention some fret rattle due to too much sanding on my part).
Sent an email to KoAloha, got an answer from Paul in about 30seconds.
They're sending me a couple new saddles ! I am IMPRESSED!
Oh yeah, this pineapple is the most amazing uke I've played, highly recommended. Life is good.
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