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Ray Sowders
Akahai
USA
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 Posted - 10/23/2005 : 09:38:59 AM
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Aloha Kakou,
I am looking a bit down the road and beginning a plan for some more internet slack key tips videos. I still would like to address beginners’ issues, but will also include some songs this time, since I recently got the permission from Ray Kane to show them on the internet. This leads to a question that I have asked in the past, but would like to ask again. “What subjects should be addressed”? I have looked at some of the great videos and DVDs out there, and have some ideas of my own, but I feel you folks would have valuable input. Please leave word here, or send your suggestions to
ray @ raysowders.com please remember this is something in the planning stages and will not be done immediately, but soon. I also want to learn from past efforts, to see if this series can be more suited to a DVD release, but that is uncertain at this time. It sure wouldn’t hurt to try and improve the presentation so that it could be provided in that way. Time will tell on that too! Mahalo, a hui hou…. Ray
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wdf
Ha`aha`a
USA
1153 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 1:28:32 PM
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Here are a few topics that occur off the top:
Learning to play by ear.
Learning from tab and then leaving it behind.
Learning correct timing.
Learning to play nahenahe.
Learning to play in front of people.
Learning to accompany while others solo.
Learning to solo while others accompany.
Learning to play in tunings other than taropatch.
Learning to sing and play at the same time (and simultaneously ). |
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Pua Kai
Ha`aha`a
USA
1007 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 3:01:48 PM
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How do you choose which tuning to use - ie want to sing/play Key of C. Capo taropatch to 5th fret? Tune down to C-wahene/drop C.....
Whatchu do when everyone else is playing ukuleles... (kau kau time?)
Dusty already plays nahenahe (nui!!).
Ray, you are so kind to do this!!!
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MahinaM
Lokahi
USA
389 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 04:50:17 AM
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Aloha Ray!
Thanks for your efforts on gathering more info for future slack key tips videos! Dusty came up with some great ones (especially how to accompany and solo with others). I would also like to see learning to play chords on different parts of the fretboard, simple (but colorful) improvisation techniques (these may not be for beginners, but more for intermediate players), and how to get over performance anxiety without getting into an altered state (just kidding). Overcoming the shakes when playing in front of others and not freezing up with sheer terror when someone asks you to "pa'ani" during a jam, would be two biggies for me! Maybe the last two would require some psychotherapy (ha!).
Mahalo!
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 07:21:01 AM
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Dusty has THE list.
I would only add -- How to practice for improvement in playing.
What makes good ho'oma'ama'a? |
E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 09:03:29 AM
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I would suggest one other thing. Stick to using songs on the CDs that people are already familiar with. Let me tell you where this comes from. I recieved an instructional video from a friend, a homemade effort aimed at helping me with technique, etc. I enjoyed listening to his ideas and how he approached the music. What I found difficult (at first) was his choice of tunes to play. Several were his originals, others were ones I had not heard of at the time. I am an "ear" player, in that if you put a tab of something new in front of me, i can play the notes but will have no idea how the song goes until i hear it at least once. Once i get to hear it, the feel of the song is in my head, then i can play it. So, in the video i was using, it was harder for me to pick up techinque stuff on songs i had never heard than it would have been if i had known the music.
Now, for the rest of the story....the first (original) tune on his video I now play all the time! I like it, and have used it to start off most of the little coffee shop gigs i have played overe the past year. And, of the other non-origial tunes on that video, i have since heard them all on the CDs of artists I have picked up over time. So, is it really a problem to have unfamiliar music on the CD? What if someone brand new to slack key gets one of your new instructional videos, Ray; all the tunes would be new to that person and my point would be made moot. I guess i am just thinking of the fairly new player who has a smattering of exposure to slack key, it may be easiest for them to learn on songs they may already have heard.
Of course, then you then would need to decide which songs they MAY have heard. How the heck would you do that? Oh, well, forget I even said anything. Thanks for your efforts. I'll get over my little problem some day :) |
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Reid
Ha`aha`a
Andorra
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Posted - 10/24/2005 : 11:17:12 AM
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OK,
This will be a "me, too" post.
First, you have gotten the best advice already. Those subjects might even be a lifetime project, but they are what we are all interested in and need.
Second, Karl's suggestion is part of that best advice (no matter what he says:-). Ron Loo spends most of his beginning effort on "standards", those songs that are most familiar, most deeply embedded in the slack key repertoire, like "E Liliu e" and "Old Timer's Hula" and lots of others. Oz uses portions of his recordings (that you would have heard) and other pieces that have common fragments, like some of Auntie Alice's figures, or Awiwi, which we know from Peter, is Excercise #3 and a Gabby excerpt.
You have what you need. And what we need.
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
1533 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2005 : 3:11:03 PM
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Hi Ray,
As a beginner/intermediate player, I'm looking for alternate chord shapes to the barre and the standard D7 shape, including minors, partial chords and those that use a root bass note on the sixth string. I think that will expand my options from standard 3-4 chord songs.
Mahalo for your earlier tip videos. Very simple and helpful.
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Konabob
`Olu`olu
USA
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Ray Sowders
Akahai
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2005 : 09:57:01 AM
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Howzit?
It appears Dusty gets the "gold star" on this one, he has summed up most of your wants/needs quite nicely! While it is true that these things could take a long time to address, they are still worth tackling. I’ll do my best to try to approach them all soon. My plan was to gather these types of subjects and begin a new series to have out after the New Year. (With a little luck!) I’ll let you know if the time frame changes. Also, if there are other readers who have suggestions not listed here, please reply to the topic when you can. As always, I appreciate all of your input. Aloha, Ray
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