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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2006 :  10:59:54 AM  Show Profile
I've been playing slack key on my National Style O for a good number of years.

Because of its unique sound, not all songs are going to be well suited to the guitar. But if you want to be heard above other guitarists........

Cheers

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2006 :  11:00:48 AM  Show Profile
BTW...

Craig or Andy:

What's a 'Lokahi', and should I be afraid?

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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2006 :  11:57:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by cmdrpiffle


What's a 'Lokahi', and should I be afraid?

cmdrpiffle,

With exeption to the emoticon and your dreaded laptop, I thought you feared nothing.

Check the FAQ: What are the Hawaiian words underneath members usernames?

Andy
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2006 :  11:22:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Piff,
I have one for you.....is CMDR commander or commodore? Or cosmic meteor destructor ray ?
I have asked once a bout becoming an Uncle on this forum, never really wanted to be a CMDR, but if i knew what one was, it might make a difference, doncha know.

Karl
Frozen North
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Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2006 :  09:47:28 AM  Show Profile
Roel,

I don't think Bob Brozman does play slack key. He plays steel guitar - and of an upbeat, bouncy style fashionable in the 1920s, not the nahenahe style of, say, Greg Sardinha or Bobby Ingano, to name a few. However, he has made some cds playing side-by-side with slack key:

1) a recording of Bob playing with master slack key player Cyril Pahinui - an interesting combination. You can read about it here http://www.bobbrozman.com/fourhands.html

2) a recording of Bob playing with Ledward Kaapana, another slack key master, and you can read Bob's comments about accompanying slack key for the first time here: http://www.bobbrozman.com/kikakila.html . Looks like they made a second album, too.

For a different take on the combination, check out Barney Isaacs and George Kuo playing together on "Hawaiian Touch" http://www.mele.com/v3/info/88.htm

aloha,
Sarah
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garson
Lokahi

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2006 :  5:08:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit garson's Homepage
Scott Alley here in Houston plays beautiful slack key on a three cone National. I think the sound is great for slack key, resonant with lots of sustain.

Jim Garson

Jim Garson
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2006 :  10:43:22 AM  Show Profile
Karl,

That's Commander Piffle. But I've been called worse. Just don't call me uncle. Way too much of that going around.

Cheers,

Stay warm up there.


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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2006 :  10:58:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
thanks fo rthe clarification uncle Piff

Karl
Frozen North
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Rlowenote
Akahai

84 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2006 :  3:16:32 PM  Show Profile
I am actively using my steel body National as one of my Slack Key guitars.

I emailed National Resophonic regarding string gauges and replacement biscuit bridges. Don (one of the owners) followed up with a phone call to discuss my questions. Nice to get personal service these days. Very friendly. Since the phone call I've changed to lighter strings (.012-.053) and the guitar is much more playable without a lose of tone/volume. With a light touch it sounds nice on slower pieces and the sustain of the harmonics is great.

I'm currently bouncing back and forth between my Taylor 614ce and National. Both get played daily. I'm undecided as to which one to take to the next open mic in Oceanside. The Taylor is still easier to play since the action is a bit lower.

Ralph
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2006 :  8:58:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Ralph,
I dont know the guage strings on new nationals or dobros, but i always keep mine strung with extra heavies for slide work...gives a brighter, stronger sound. Certainly makes it harder to play slack or other fingerstyle, but that is njot what i got mine for. there are currently two resophonics in stores in town, one steel, one sood with biscuit bridge. Both have light to medium strings on them and are a delight to play slack key on
BTW, my 614ce is an older model and is maple. Is yours maple, too?

Karl
Frozen North
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2006 :  8:59:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Ralph,
I dont know the guage strings on new nationals or dobros, but i always keep mine strung with extra heavies for slide work...gives a brighter, stronger sound. Certainly makes it harder to play slack or other fingerstyle, but that is njot what i got mine for. there are currently two resophonics in stores in town, one steel, one sood with biscuit bridge. Both have light to medium strings on them and are a delight to play slack key on
BTW, my 614ce is an older model and is maple. Is yours maple, too?

Karl
Frozen North
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basilking
Lokahi

124 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  5:21:20 PM  Show Profile
I tend to play diverse styles [including slack key] on whatever guitar is in hand at the moment, especially if just relaxing by myself. I've played plenty slack key on my '34 Style O, but I like slack key notes and harmonics to ring [selectively, or try to...]longer than the fairly quick-decaying [but loud-barkin'] Nat'l, so other guitars are more often pressed into ki ho 'alu service. The Nat'l O sure snarls nicely with a slide, though not an "Hawaiian" sound to my ears.
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  08:19:59 AM  Show Profile
Basilking:

Aloha and welcome!
The Nat'l O sure snarls nicely with a slide, though not an "Hawaiian" sound to my ears

I love that growl. I've noticed something a bit harder sounding and faster, like Mauna Loa, is just made for a resonator.

Karl: I recently had 58/16's on my Style O. Damn near piano wire! It'll drive the cone well, but is hell on the fingers. I've gone back to the present factory supplied 53/13's, kinda all around medium sound, but tight enough to still get the cone spun up.

Finally, even if it doesn't 'sound' Hawaiian, it's still a shiny metal guitar with palm trees etched on it. How cool is that?

Cheers

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  08:38:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Welcome Basilking. Glad to have anothier on board.
Piff, mine is a Regal cutaway, new in 1995. Wood body, single cone, spider bridge. It aint much but all i could afford. I have 16-64s on it. i played it the other n ight, fingerstyle, after having contributed to this thread. I had just come off two weeks of practice on my 12 string, also strung with heavy strings, and the regal was a lot easier to play than i remembered. But i still like it best for slide

Karl
Frozen North
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Rlowenote
Akahai

84 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  09:11:53 AM  Show Profile
My National "O" also has the Palm Tree scene. Looks nice except I just noticed marks on the back of the body. Don't know how that happened, but the first scratches are always the worst! The fingerboard is flat and my Steel body has a radiused f/board, so it gets more time even though action needs to be lowered. Both sustain chimes better/longer than my other guitars. Maybe it's the volume achieved, even though I don't play it hard. My cats wouldn't like the "barking" sound. The Steel body has a "flame" paint job, since I used to be a painter. Kameleon flames over Purple Pearl. No accounting for taste. Works for me though.

Ralph
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