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Ianui
Lokahi

USA
298 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  3:08:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ianui's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Karl Monetti

Aw, come on you guys, my description wasn't that histrionic...was it???
Don, did you die in that crash?




Yep I got killed
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slkho
`Olu`olu

740 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  3:33:52 PM  Show Profile
I was caught with my fly open...does that count????

That's why I climb, if I get tired, I can walk down from 15,000 ft. and only get blisters. hee hee, not auger into a big bug splat.
Kudos to all of you who can fly. I'm actually reading Lindbergh's biography....what a life he had, awesome reading.
~slkho
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2006 :  08:41:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Slkho,
As you young whipper-snappers age you will go through 4 stages
First, you forget names
Then you start to forget faces
Then you forget to pull your fly up.
End stage, you forget to pull your fly down.
Good luck on the journey, Rik, you've alrady forgotten we have flat feet so we can stand on flat ground without the help of ropes :)

Karl
Frozen North
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2006 :  12:11:48 PM  Show Profile
ya get old ya get the "hereafters"

when ya walk into a room you forgot what yer here-after.

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2006 :  3:37:06 PM  Show Profile
Gawd Karl, now I'm scared. Is that what I have to look towards?
Uhh...what were we talking about?

......panters off down the hall in search of his slippers

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  08:00:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Well, back to the guitar....remember the guitar? This was a song about a guitar. Got 'er done last night. She is strung up and it sure is a neat feeling to make the first notes on a new instrument! I have asked Andy to post pix of the finished project.
The sound is not quite what i had hoped for, but a luthier friend here may have some ideas to help brighten it up. If i learn to play it, i will try to get a video link here to share.
Thanks for all your support and suggestions along the way.






Karl
Frozen North
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  08:36:47 AM  Show Profile
What's the next project? Need to stay busy on the tundra.

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  09:04:42 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Ok, got the photos up. Wow! Beautiful work, Karl! Congrats.

Andy
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  11:15:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Next project, which will definitely take longer than constructing the box, is learning to coax some nice nahenahe sounds out of it. As in, re-learn to play in a whole new way. If we all live long enough i will make a recording and post it
Yeah, Andy, it looks really good from where you are. There are some defects, but I'm not complaining.

Karl
Frozen North
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  1:10:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
That's a stunning instrument, Karl. So beautiful.
I think the guitar will open up somewhat as you play it. You may also want to experiment with various strings to see where you get the best sustain. The larger and more solid the bar, the better the sustain as well.
You may also consider a pickup of some kind. The electronics of an amp can help with sustain. I sent you a video with some C6 slide stuff on it, too. To try that sound, get an 8-string set of E9 tuning strings and pick and choose from them to get CEGACE.
The Weissenborn never produced the sustain or adjustable tone of a lap steel, so don't expect that kind of sound. Just enjoy the woody sound and work on pitch.
Congratulations!
Keep your left pinky on the strings!
Jesse Tinsley


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Pua Kai
Ha`aha`a

USA
1007 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  7:43:16 PM  Show Profile
WOW!!
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  07:36:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
Thanks, Nancy
Jesse, I tried replacing the bone saddle with stainless steel rod.....that helped a little. The two treble strings just sound dead. the high one is brand new D'Adario .12, the other a new, but off brand .16. They just sound sort of dead....no "ring" to them. And, it is worse when i put the bar to them. Metal picks help a little. A guy at the local music store said i might have used the wrong lacquer...he said the ones for instruments are "hjarder" and produce better tone than store-bought stuff i used.. Hope that's not it....I'd hadt to have to strip it off and start over on the finish.
I used a bone nut, but am not sure how good my fret grooves are on it.....maybe smoothing them out would help?
Thanks for the video, if I restring it i will try the C6 tuning

Karl
Frozen North
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  08:17:33 AM  Show Profile
Karl, I wouldn't panic too much. The laquer might have some effect, bit it's not going to be critical.
What I'd look at again is the actual saddle. Be it bone or plastic, steel, wood......the contact point and string angle makes more difference than you can imagine. Especially if it's not 'dead' sounding across all strings...just some.
I've seen guitars that were crap open up with a different saddle. Case in point is a hand made bone saddle on one of mine. I was never happy with it. Took it off to try to file it...and snapped it. Okay, so I brought a inexpensive plastic off the shelf one that fit until I could make a new one. That cheap plastic one sounds fantastic. I had a totally dead G string, 3rd, and this solved it. With the top stings contact points...yer literally working in hair widths.....tiny differences in the contact surface can greatly affect the sound.
Additionally since it's a wood instrument....it will take considerable time under tension to really open up. A lot of them are dead sounding when new. Wood fibers/finish, glue, everything has to set up....even if technically 'dry', this is their first dance with relation to each other. It'll take some time. In the meantime, I'd experiment with minor things like the saddle. Leave the finish. That too will be very different in a years time.
Karl, it's a work of art, and it's yours. I'd guarantee in 10 years you'd question how you ever could have thought it was less than perfect. Something made with your own Mana like this.....it's priceless.
Give 'er some time!

Cheers
Mike
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  09:38:22 AM  Show Profile
Karl,
i wonder if a "hula girl shaker" would help cure in the wood for the soundboard? I made a few and have them hanging on my ukuleles and guitars in my music room. My brand new KoAloha 6-string just blossomed and opened up in about a week of constant connection to the local jazz FM station. They are easy to make with an old Radio Shack speaker, some glue, and a wooden clothes-pin. See the following:
http://www.ukuleles.com/Technology/HulaGirlShaker.html

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2006 :  11:24:39 AM  Show Profile
Damn Mike! Great idea. I forgot all about those things.

Now.......if you have a suggestion to 'help' a couple bottles of 98 Chateau Margaux taste like a 1961........

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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