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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 02/13/2006 :  09:48:45 AM  Show Profile
And you can always rely on Daves Insanity:

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That'll get yer Schmengy Mariachi Star Wars Accordion Bagpipe Flugelhorn Glockenspeil Polka motor go'in fer shuure.

Head out on the Highway!


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 02/13/2006 12:18:37 PM
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 02/13/2006 :  12:49:57 PM  Show Profile
Now Dave's is some HOT STUFF!!!!

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
756 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2006 :  3:51:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage
OK, so i guess we are not going to start a new forum for variant tunings, but we have already gotten one going for deviant loonies!

Karl
Frozen North
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cmdrpiffle
`Olu`olu

USA
553 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2006 :  07:04:37 AM  Show Profile
Speak for yourself, my doctor says I'm completely normal....now that the voices have mostly stopped. Mostly.

my Poodle is smarter than your honor student
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Admin
Pupule

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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  07:26:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by cmdrpiffle

Speak for yourself, my doctor says I'm completely normal....now that the voices have mostly stopped. Mostly.

Well whispering does not count right? Play slack key, play slack key, play slack key...

Andy
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:22:51 AM  Show Profile
When you are the only sane person in the asylum, the way to cope is to pretend you are insane - by acting normal!
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  5:52:35 PM  Show Profile
I like New Mexico extra hot, very little or no tomato in the chili. Check out: www.happyhansmusic.com. for the other band I'm in.
Steve, when the going gets tough, the weird turn pro. Even on the kordeen, the advice is, "jus' press."
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Mana Pua
Aloha

USA
13 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  09:52:25 AM  Show Profile
I vote yes. If Andy has the bandwidth, start the forum. If it dies by the wayside, so be it.

When ever I practice my open G tuning, I almost always slip in a few non-Hawaiian songs to liven up my session. I usually retune the 5th string back to "A" and play several songs in a drop "D" tuning. The fact is that because of my affection for slack key, I've found that I've been able to adapt many non-Hawaiian songs to tunings that make my arrangements more full, more pleasing. And, vice versa. Before learning any alternative tunings, I played all my Hawaiian music in standard tuning.

My point is that any forum that will add ammo to my arsenal is kini popo with me!

Love, Kepoo
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  1:54:51 PM  Show Profile
quote:
I usually retune the 5th string back to "A" and play several songs in a drop "D" tuning.

In case you were not aware of this, here is an excerpt from George Winston's excellent on-line book on slack key (at dancingcat.com):



quote:
D Tunings: The key of D is the third most often used key in the Slack Key tradition. D Tunings have often been: Wahine Tunings, the D Major Tuning, the Ni’ihau/ Old Mauna Loa Tunings, and various miscellaneous tunings.

D Wahine Tuning (D–A–D–F#–A–C#) -(#D4) was played more often in the past and has been used occasionally by Leonard Kwan, Ray Kane, Keola Beamer, Sonny Chillingworth and Led Kaapana, as well as by older recorded players, including the late Tommy Blaisdell, the late Tommy Solomon, and the late George Keoki Davis.

Cyril Pahinui prominently uses the D Major Tuning (D–A–D–F#–A–D) -(#D1). Sometimes Keola Beamer, Moses Kahumoku, and Kapono Beamer use the D Major Tuning as well. (The D Major Tuning is a common tuning in Mainland America, where it was sometimes called “Vestapol Tuning” in the late 1800s and the early 1900s, named with a shorter title for the late 1800s American instrumental piece The Siege of Sebastapol, which is in the D Major Tuning)

Cyril Pahinui also uses his unique D Ni`ihau/Old Mauna Loa Tuning (D–A–D–F#–B–E) -(#D6), which is a variation on the D Major Tuning (D–A–D–F#–A–D) -(#D1), using the four lowest pitched strings of that tuning; and it is also a variation on the Standard Tuning (E-A-D-G-B-E) -(#C-30), using the two highest pitched strings of that tuning. Kapono Beamer also occasionally uses this D Ni’ihau/ Old Mauna Loa Tuning (D–A–D–F#–B–E) –(#D6).
Also Cyril Pahinui’s D Ni’ihau/ Old Mauna Loa Tuning (D–A–D–F#–B–E) -(#D6) is one note different from the Dropped D Tuning (D–A–D–G–B–E) - (#D7), where the fourth string would be tuned down from the G note to the F# note for Cyril’s D Ni’ihau/ Old Mauna Loa Tuning (D–A–D–F#–B–E) -(#D6).
The Dropped D Tuning (D–A–D–G–B–E) -(#D7), is most prominently used by Bla Pahinui, and it is also one note different from the Standard Tuning (E–A–D–G-B–E) –(#C-32), with the lowest pitched sixth string tuned from the E note down to the D note. It is also used occasionally by Led Kaapana. (It is also very common in Mainland America, Europe, and in the Classical guitar tradition).

Another D tuning is the D6th Tuning (D–A–D–F#–B–D) -(#D8), where the second highest pitched string in the D Major Tuning (D–A–D–F#–A–D) -(#D1) is tuned up from the A note to the B note. It is used often by Carlos Andrade, Patrick Cockett, and Kapono Beamer; as well as occasionally used by Moses Kahumoku, and the Japanese slack key guitarist Yuki Yamauchi.

In fact, all or nearly all of the known open tunings have been used for Hawaiian Slack Key. So there are very very few open tunings that would qualify as "non-Hawaiian open tunings".

So the real difference does not lie in the tunings used, but in the style of playing. So if Andy were to make a special forum section for "Non Hawaiian Music done in Open Tunings" it might as well be titled: ALL MUSIC NOT DONE IN STANDARD TUNING (which would be the same thing!)


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 03/20/2006 1:57:56 PM
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slackkeymike
Lokahi

440 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  7:04:34 PM  Show Profile
Wow! Its still a goin!

Great info,

Mike (ps: thanks for all the cullinary tips)

Aloha, Mike
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Stringbreaker
Akahai

USA
62 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2007 :  09:31:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Stringbreaker's Homepage
If Open tunings refer only to those tunings which are based on (for example) a major chord, here is a list of all of the ones based on the major chord. http://www.alluvialgems.com/MajorChordTuning.htm - Note that if your strings can handle the difference, any of these can be cloned as well (by cloned I mean either raising or lowering every string a half step or more, as long as it's by the same amount). I also have in my private collection complete sets of Major 6 (minor 7) tunings, suspended and other types based on chords. Email me if you are interested.

Crazy Man Tuning
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