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RJS
Ha`aha`a

1635 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2006 :  8:30:08 PM  Show Profile
Keola Doherty (Nahenahe.net) had this link on his website - O thought it interesting enough to put it here. It helped me understand something I was hearing and not liking.
http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicrange.htm

Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
1597 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2006 :  9:43:15 PM  Show Profile
I have been campaining about this for nearly 15 years. I too, find that I am squashing material more that I want to. But I do have a limit. On acoustic material I will not compress to less than -16db.

By the way - this is called crest-factor and is the ratio between the peak power (which on a CD is always "1" or Zero db) and average power measured as decibels RMS below peak (just like the power from your wall socket).

It is a very stupid game which in turn depends upon the ultimate stupidity of the consumer. At this point I have to agree with Socrates who (2500 years ago) concluded that the "consumer/voter" is just too stupid to allow real democracy to work. (this loudness game is just one of many examples of such stupidity).


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 03/18/2006 9:44:57 PM
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  1:45:26 PM  Show Profile
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Say it with me, very loud. "BRING BACK DYNAMIC RANGE!"

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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Reid
Ha`aha`a

Andorra
1526 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  03:56:31 AM  Show Profile
There are *lots* of articles on the web, that I have collected or bookmarked, that say the same thing. They are all written by pros. What they say about the target audience (you know who and you know what) and target listening space/medium (car/radio - actually high ambient noise and poor reproduction equipment) explains a lot.

I have experimented a *lot* with compression on Sarah's recordings where the target audience is us and friends, and the target listening space is a living room. In every case, the version with *no* compression has been judged best - and not just by us, by knowledgeable friends, too. I think that some of the reasons are the character of the material, the character of the instrument and the recording space. With "slow", lyrical music, playing technique that purposefully lets notes ring, a guitar with loads of sustain, and a recording room with slight reverb, compressing the sound even slightly is overkill.

I have also examined ripped Dancing Cat recordings closely and, for instance, Keola's and Dennis' recordings have loads of dynamic range. But they don't get much airtime in Megalopolis or on I95.

...Reid

Edited by - Reid on 03/21/2006 07:02:48 AM
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Bwop
Lokahi

USA
244 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  1:19:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bwop's Homepage
E kala mai, but I can't stress this sentiment enough-- "If it can't be played in the real world, why boddah?".

Bwop
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