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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
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 Posted - 07/19/2006 : 8:43:31 PM
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What is this tuning similar to intervallically speaking?
Why FCEGCE?
It's the tuning used by Makana for "How do Ya do"
Played on a small Larivee...
He was sitting on the stairs inside the Maui Cultural Center warmng up for his time...
When you get those unexpected moments with someone you admire, and where there's a thousand questions...but you know you better go for the 1 or 2 questions that are better than, "what kind of strings do you use"?
I hear the notes...but the tuning was evasive...
not only playing it well is evasive.
And I better use extra light strings... nothing ain't slacked!
or a equivlent tuning, slacked with a capo!
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2006 : 06:41:51 AM
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MAHAL0 Kapilakane!
I thought that was the tuning Makana used on that one. I've been working with How'd ya do for a while now and have always felt that Makanas version was the most accessable as far as getting the gist of that tune but up til now I've been settling for just a plain old open C tunning played in the key of F but I can see that the F/C tunning you've just shared with us really puts it togther. Again MAHALO!
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slackkeymike
Lokahi
440 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2006 : 7:22:53 PM
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Would someone be so kind as to explain this tuning (relative to standard)? (up/down, etc)
Also, is there a tab available for the song?
Mike |
Aloha, Mike |
Edited by - slackkeymike on 07/20/2006 7:23:27 PM |
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slackkeymike
Lokahi
440 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2006 : 12:57:25 AM
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How can one call FCEGCE slack tuning?
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Aloha, Mike |
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2006 : 08:10:46 AM
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Looks lots "tighter to me"
E -- A -- D -- G -- B -- E
F -- C -- E -- G -- C -- E
up up up n/c up n/c
four of six strings are "tighter" -- better tighten up that truss rod or your action is going to be WAY high (assuming the strings don't break)
I don't know of any tablature available for this song.
With the exception of the low F string, this is a Key of C tuning (a C major chord being C, E, & G). The F would be the fourth degree in the scale. Not sure how to classify this tuning. |
E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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slackkeymike
Lokahi
440 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2006 : 2:54:28 PM
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OK, now that I have support...this belongs in Talk Story!!
Mike |
Aloha, Mike |
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2006 : 06:46:49 AM
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Aloha Everybody,
I hope this will help. Instead of tuning everything up, do what many of the old time players do. Tune down to B flat but in the Open C configuration (ie: Atta's C), so that you can use the same cord forms that you would use in open C Which you can also play in F in.(that's I believe what Makana does). Also B flat is a really cool tuning: the slackend strings are a pleasure to play in; it sounds good; the strings aren't stressed, the neck's not stressed, and you're not stressed when you tune your strings. Here's how. From standard tuning: Starting with the bass: E down to Eb, A up to Bb, D stays D,G down to F, B down to Bb, E down to D. ( I beleive I got the transposition right but if I didn't big appologies but know that the concept is still valid; ie. Bb tuning) Also you can do Bb for mounaloa and Bb for Fred punahoa's tuning. Just remember that the fingering is the same as if were in Open C(CGEGCE)or the slight change for the other two tuning mentioned.
Whew!
Allan (b3d) |
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2006 : 06:49:57 AM
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| P.S. If you gotta play in C just capo the 2nd fret....easy eh. |
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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu
USA
756 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2006 : 1:02:29 PM
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One of our TPers put out a book of 174 tunings he had gleaned from books, tapes, performers, etc., and i looked up this tuning lastnight. It was not in there, but he did list several that were very close, in that 3, 4, or 5 stings had the same fret intervals between them. FCEGCE has intervals of 74354. The tunings to follow are from the book. The author eems to have tuned to and played in each of these tunings at one time or another...hope he has his tuning wrench chucked into his driver drill!!
Fr many of the tunings he lists he also puts the originator or at least someone who plays in that tuning and a song played in it as well. Unfortunately only two of the following tunings have songs, but this may help you at least figure out how youmight go about experimenting with the tuning under discussion.
DAC#FAD 74355 Charlie Davis, no song provided. This is the closet to Makana's
EAC#EAC# 54345 David Wilcox, Burgundy Heart-shaped Medallion. This is actually as close as the previous one and maybe more relevant
CGDF#AD 77435 David Wilcox, That's What the Lonely is For
EAC#EAE 54357
EAEGCE 57354
EAEG#BE 57435 Droop this down one whole step and you have DGDF#AD, which is open D except for the G on the 5th string
I hope this helps. I'm sticking to the few tunings i am comfortable with. there's probably eassier ways to learn How Do Y'Do in one of them:) |
Karl
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 12:43:47 AM
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Aw geez Vern, look what I've started.
Just in case there are new tuning explorers in here,
DON'T do FCEGCE without some "forgiveness" of the tension
...extra light strings or the other ways discussed...
when I tried one of Keola's FBb
etc. tunings, with raised bass strings a couple years ago, my cheap (thankfully) Washburn went supernova on me and the bridge pulled up...it was from a previous bad repair...but it gave me respect for lowering the threshold for "red alert".
glad someone else found this song worth another look.
still would love to get a good tab! |
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 08:08:54 AM
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OOPS!
I'm really sorry everybody.I did this at work and got the transposition wrong. I need to go home and do it with my guitar in hand. Please disregard my other two replies. The next suggestion will be accurate!
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bobby3dog
Akahai
USA
69 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2006 : 06:38:35 AM
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never mind,
i was right the first time....i think i need a vacation.
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 08/10/2006 : 4:24:43 PM
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| I found some Nort' Dakota guy playing a weird tuning for country music, sorta similar. For "How'dya Do", I use taropatch, but then I use my left thumb on the bass string. |
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