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Ukupau
Aloha

USA
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Posted - 07/20/2006 :  07:29:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ukupau's Homepage
I have been studying Kanaka Waiwai from various angles and have run across a challange with understanding the ÿ macron. Referencing Daniel Ho's version:

Ma ke ala hele o Iesü
I häläwai aku ai
Me ke kanaka ÿöpio hanohano
Kaulana i ka waiwai
Pane mai e ka ÿöpio
E kuÿu Haku maikaÿi
He aha hoÿi kaÿu e hana aku ai
I loaÿa e ke ola mau

He makes use of the ÿ. Where as in other versions one would see:

Ma ke alahele ‘O Iesü,
I hala wai aku ai
Me ke kanaka ‘opio hanohano,
Kalauna i ka waiwai.
Pane mai e ka ‘opio,
‘E ku’u Haka maika’i,
He aha ho’i ka’u e hana aku ai,
I loa’a e ke ola mau?

I have done quite a bit of online research regarding the macron ÿ and have found extremely little data other than unicode format.

Using the standard diacritical mark pronunciation the macron ÿ = ii
does ÿöpio = ‘opio ( where the [‘] = [ÿ]? How about loaÿa and loa’a ?

Aloha



Mika ele
Ha`aha`a

USA
1493 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  08:45:58 AM  Show Profile
John,
I think the problem comes form a lack of wide internet support for the two Hawaiian language symbols. One is the 'okina and the other is the kahako (with a macron above the o). Here is a good explanation of the two symbols.

http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/o-diacriticalmarks.html

I have solved the problem by loading Hawaiian Fonts on my PC. Then, most file imports get the two symbols correctly. The MS Word files I have sent you use the HI keawe font. Here is a source for fonts.

http://www.olelo.hawaii.edu/eng/resources/fonts.html

As far as the song goes, the 'okina is the correct symbol. There is no y in the Hawaiian language. So the correct is 'opio and loa'a.

E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima.
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