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Tonya
Lokahi
USA
177 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 06:19:47 AM
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I always thought this word pronounced the "English" way, with the last part the same as "rose" (long "o", silent "e") but at a Big Island kanikapila we played a song from "the blue book" (He Mele Aloha) and the group sang the word as tuber-rose-ay (with the "e" as the Hawaiian "long a" sound). Was this a style thing or is that the "Hawaiian" pronunciation?
I ask because it's one of my favorite flowers for a lei and I'd hate to always be asking for it and pronouncing it wrong while in Hawaii...
Thanks for any help.
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
504 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 09:32:32 AM
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It's a loan-word, so pronuciation could be all over the place. Sonny sings it as "toobeh-roseh," with the final vowel *very* slightly shifted toward the diphthong "ay." I'm not sure what current Hawaiian-language experts think of Sonny's pronuciation, but Kiki told me that he was pretty careful about it.
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 12:46:44 PM
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Good question to submit to Keola Donaghy at nahenahe.net
I asked him via email -- will let you know if/when he answers |
E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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Mika ele
Ha`aha`a
USA
1493 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 1:16:06 PM
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Keola answered.
---- That's the way that it would be sung in Hawaiian, just as "rose" is pronounced "rose-eh". The "s" is not pronounced like a "z" as it is in English after the "o", but as "s".
Keola --- > How do you properly pronounce the flower, "tuberose"? I would like to > sing it properly. I heard Sonny Chillingworth pronounce it as > tooo-ba-rose-eh. |
E nana, e ho'olohe. E pa'a ka waha, e hana ka lima. |
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Tonya
Lokahi
USA
177 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2006 : 1:48:22 PM
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Thank you, everyone! Now I can be certain of what I'm asking for at the lei stand--but I know a tuberose by any other pronunciation would smell just as sweet (cribbing from Mr. Shakespeare)... |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2006 : 12:44:34 AM
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(sings) 'O 'oe no ka 'i'ini, e ku'u pua (too-bah-roh-seh) lol
i love that mele... |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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dagan
Aloha
37 Posts |
Posted - 12/23/2006 : 11:31:43 PM
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just to add...when singing "tuberose" we may say "too-bah-row-zay" just to keep in time with the song. but if you go to a lei stand, I would just say "too-bah-rose" at least that's been my experiences in the islands. but don't worry, any local would know what you meant and would be glad to help you... db |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 12/24/2006 : 3:53:23 PM
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Mahalo for telling me. BTW I love singing in 'olelo. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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