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RWD
`Olu`olu

USA
850 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2007 :  5:29:43 PM  Show Profile
I hope you enjoy the reality show title :)

Ok this is post 100, I wanted to wait until I had something non-trivial to ask. Hopefully I am not ending a really great trend.

Here goes.
I play guitar about three hours a day (because I like to) and my finger tip calouses have been getting very thick and are deeply grooved.

The grooves have become semi-permanent and are causing problems. Sometimes I have sensititity in the grooves but my biggest problem is that I can't play some passages consistently because my grooves snag on the strings.

An example: while playing Moe 'Uhane my finger tip grooves are making the push/pull offs very problematic.

Lately I have had to resort to parking my guitars. I am messing around with my bottleneck to fill the void, but hey, it's not slack key--know what I mean Vern?

This could be a common problem for those members that play a lot.

My question is:
How can I minimize or eliminate this problem?
And no, I do not want to stop playing guiar.

Advanced Thanks to all
Bob

Bob

Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  03:45:39 AM  Show Profile
My experience, Bob, is that I don?t really need quite all the callous buildup, so what I do is take a nail file, one of those foam-core flexible kind, and gently buff down my callouses to reduce the groove and any rough edges, which do indeed snag up on those hammer-on/pull-offs, I haven?t suffered from too little callous as a result of smoothing them out.

aloha,
Sarah
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  05:08:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
I have also filed a callous in order to smooth it out. Longer term, though, I think that deep grooves are likely the result of pressing down too hard. Perhaps your action is higher than it should be? Can you play with a lighter touch?

Andy
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Podagee57
Lokahi

USA
280 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  07:45:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Podagee57's Homepage
I'm with Andy on this one. My first guitar was a 12 string...and not a real good one. The action was high and the strings hard to push down. It really retarded my progress as a player because it was too hard to push the strings down beyond the 3rd fret. That was 30 some years ago. As a consequence, to this day, I have a tendency to push really hard on the strings. Even though I have a guitars with very easy action, I still, because of that first guitar, push too hard. Examine why it is that you have to push so hard. Is it because you can't get a clean sound unless you do? If so then consider getting an adjustment on the guitar to lower the action. If not, try to make a concerted effort to be aware of the amount of pressure you are applying and try to lighten up a bit. Sometimes when I find myself pushing so hard I have to tell myself to ease up. Experiment and see just how little pressure you have to apply and still get a clean sound. It will help you figure out if it's just you or the guitar, or maybe a combination of both.

What? You mean high "E" is the TOP string. No way dude! That changes everything!
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RWD
`Olu`olu

USA
850 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  1:18:21 PM  Show Profile
I may be using excessive pressure and I will pay more attention to it now.
As far as action goes, my guitars are at the hight side of normal measuring approx 3/32 at the 12th fret.

I cannot get my action really low because of buzzing and I have played around with both neck relief and string hight.

In my electric days, my action was really low because the buzzing didn't show up through a distorted amp. Wish I could set it that low on acoustic.

Action is one of those things that drives me crazy. I want it lower but can't get there with any of my acoustics.
Medium or light/medium strings have also been a tough adjustment for me coming from nylon.

I will try filing my callus and playing with a lighter touch.

Thanks for the two good suggestions.

Bob


Bob
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Reid
Ha`aha`a

Andorra
1526 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  1:43:59 PM  Show Profile
The Taylor spec is a good one for fingerstyle: 4/64 at the 12th, 1st string; 6/64 at the 12th, 6th string, as I remember. That's what all 9 of ours are. Unless you are a gorilla, you have a kind of Bluegrass action height, if your measurement is of the 1st string.

If you come from nylon (which also has a high action because of the string requirements) go for lights, get a good tech to set up your guitar (usually it is a high saddle, or bad neck set for the kind of music you are playing, or just the wrong guitar).

Also, work on your right hand ergonomics - are you plucking *up*? If so, guaranteed to be bad buzz. Read a bit about tone production.

It is the guitar's job to produce a loud and pleasing sound. It is up to you to find that guitar and make it happen.

...Reid

...Reid
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RWD
`Olu`olu

USA
850 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2007 :  5:40:54 PM  Show Profile
Reid:
String height was from the 12th fret 6th string and both of my steel string guitars are about the same. They are closer to 7/64.
Thanks for making me aware of the up-stoke.

Bob

Bob
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RWD
`Olu`olu

USA
850 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2007 :  5:37:41 PM  Show Profile
A note to Sarah and Andy:
The callus filing worked. My fingers are a little tender from playing now but they are not deeply grooved or snaging the strings anymore.
I thought this was going to be a really bad problem.
Thank you both.
Bob

Bob
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Admin
Pupule

USA
4551 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2007 :  7:24:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Excellent. Glad that it worked for you.

Andy
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Sarah
`Olu`olu

571 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2007 :  04:39:28 AM  Show Profile
Great, Bob. Happy fretting!

aloha,
Sarah
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