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                 alika207 
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                       Posted - 03/11/2007 :  11:02:27 AM
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Aloha! 
  I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday, and we decided it would be neat if we came up with a choral arrangement of "The Toad Song," published it, and shared it with our choirs to sing in concert. Think about it: how many choirs on the mainland have sung songs in Hawaiian? I was wondering if there was anyone out there who could help us with the arrangement or writing it down as sheet music. Please reply to this or email me. Mahalo nui loa!
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                        He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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                 Reid 
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                       Posted - 03/12/2007 :  01:43:22 AM
                        
                      
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                       Sarah is the only person I know, besides Keali`i, who sings and performs the Toad Song. I don't think she has time to do any choral arranging though. Besides, do you really think a bunch of people could sing that tongue twister simultaneously so the words would be clear? I think it would be seriously hard. And messing with the Hawaiian language, by a lot of people who don't know how to pronounce it properly - including phrasing and breathing in the right places, is a bad idea. In addition, what about the legal issues with Puakea and Keali`i? Think about it.
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                 alika207 
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                       Posted - 03/16/2007 :  12:01:25 AM
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by Reid
  Sarah is the only person I know, besides Keali`i, who sings and performs the Toad Song. I don't think she has time to do any choral arranging though. Besides, do you really think a bunch of people could sing that tongue twister simultaneously so the words would be clear? I think it would be seriously hard. And messing with the Hawaiian language, by a lot of people who don't know how to pronounce it properly - including phrasing and breathing in the right places, is a bad idea. In addition, what about the legal issues with Puakea and Keali`i? Think about it.
  ...Reid
 
   In response to your issues and concerns: 1. I was thinking that the verses could be sung by a soloist, not the whole choir. The other choral parts could do an "oo" part as background. And, if more than one person could really do the verses well, then we could possibly have one soloist for each verse. 2. If by some chance this was in fact made into a choral piece, I could coach a few local choirs on the Hawaiian. 3. I have emailed Puna to ask him for permission before I even start discussing ideas with people. Still waiting for a response. | 
                     
                    
                        He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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                 Reid 
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                       Posted - 03/16/2007 :  02:51:08 AM
                        
                      
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                       That sounds doable. The idea of sharing the difficult wording between soloists is very good, especially if the quality and range of the voices is different. 
  A suggestion: it should be possible to treat the verses as a kind of call and response. After all, it is about finding a companion or lover. So, it would be interesting, I think, to have two people, or maybe pairs of people, sing alternate verses. In addition, to give the chorus more to do, they could sing the hoom-mama, hoom-baby, froggy kind of thing, sotto voce behind the soloists and then come up louder, as the recorded song does, between verses. That would provide a rhythmic background, as well as reinforce the notion that this was taking place in a frog/toad pond.
  But, it is your idea, so arrange it as you wish.
  Do you plan to have them sing the English version, too? 
  Also, tell us how it goes with your contact with Puakea. It would be interesting to all of us to know how he reacts.
  Oh, I just noticed that you wrote "Puna". Is that a slip, or did you email a different person?
  Good luck, and let us know what happens.
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                 Retro 
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                       Posted - 03/16/2007 :  12:46:37 PM
                        
                        
                      
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                       Maybe you could somehow incorporate the Balinese vocal chant technique known as 'kecak' - meant to imitate the sound of a chorus of frogs/toads.
  Or...maybe not.  (But if you've never heard it, check it out anyway.) | 
                     
                    
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                 Mark 
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                 alika207 
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                       Posted - 03/16/2007 :  1:25:13 PM
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by Reid
  That sounds doable. The idea of sharing the difficult wording between soloists is very good, especially if the quality and range of the voices is different. 
  A suggestion: it should be possible to treat the verses as a kind of call and response. After all, it is about finding a companion or lover. So, it would be interesting, I think, to have two people, or maybe pairs of people, sing alternate verses. In addition, to give the chorus more to do, they could sing the hoom-mama, hoom-baby, froggy kind of thing, sotto voce behind the soloists and then come up louder, as the recorded song does, between verses. That would provide a rhythmic background, as well as reinforce the notion that this was taking place in a frog/toad pond.
  But, it is your idea, so arrange it as you wish.
  Do you plan to have them sing the English version, too? 
  Also, tell us how it goes with your contact with Puakea. It would be interesting to all of us to know how he reacts.
  Oh, I just noticed that you wrote "Puna". Is that a slip, or did you email a different person?
  Good luck, and let us know what happens.
  ...Reid
 
   Yes, yes. I forgot to mention that. The basses would do the first one, and then the other parts would join them on the second one. You know what I'm saying? I hate to ask you this, but I forget what sotto voce means. Could you please tell me? Mahalo. | 
                     
                    
                        He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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                 alika207 
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                       Posted - 03/16/2007 :  1:32:02 PM
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       E kala mai, I forgot to answer your last two questions. Here goes: 1. I didn't know there was an English version. 2. Puna is Fred Krauss. I don't know Puakea's contact info. If you do and you think I should email him too, then please email me yourself. Mahalo nui loa. | 
                     
                    
                        He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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                 alika207 
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                 hikabe 
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                       Posted - 04/21/2007 :  11:11:59 PM
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  I can arrange and transcribe your music. Email me hikabe  @  aol.com | 
                     
                    
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                 alika207 
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                       Posted - 04/22/2007 :  12:10:57 AM
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by hikabe
  I can arrange and transcribe your music. Email me hikabe   @   aol.com
 
   Mahalo. I'm still waiting to hear back from Puna. I'll definitely let you all know when I do. | 
                     
                    
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