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Reid
Ha`aha`a

Andorra
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Posted - 03/14/2007 :  3:00:31 PM  Show Profile
Thanks Mark, just the kind of thing I wanted to know. I can listen to Fred on the Na Pali CDs we bought at camp.

And thanks, Jesse, for that link. It is now book marked and I will copy it locally for study. I counted only 2 to 8 note/chord figures that Byrd played (apart from his pa`ani); never more. Of course, the choice and timing was impeccable.

I got a very nice and very loooong email from Lorene Ruymar today and I will get her instructional DVDs and book. She uses Low Bass A Major, which is just Taropatch tightened up two steps, and, as she says, it has ACE as the top 3 strings, as does C6 (and some of the other C tunings) so, even though I can use TP shapes and figures that I already know, the fret positions are pretty much there to graduate to other tunings.

I have also chosen a song from "Ho'olohe" - Waikapu - the very first song I ever learned in slack key. I can even sing (croak) all the verses and Sarah can play it perfectly (after 30 seconds refresher), I am sure. Even though Ingano's in his version of C6 and Martin is in C maunaloa, I know enough about C maunaloa to figure things out (remember the email discussion we had about it Mark?).

So, I think I am on my way and have plenty to work on.

Mahalo to all, but if you have more to add, feel free.

...Reid
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  4:49:10 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by hapakid

Reid,
I found the Youtube link that Fran put up awhile back to be helpful. It's Jerry Byrd playing little fills at the end of each line sung by Marty Robbins. Although dated, it's a primer on how to play sweetly without stomping on the vocalist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_oaEw0p3js

Jesse Tinsley


Hey, Jesse - How can I download that off youtube? I can't seem to get it figured out.

keaka
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  5:02:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
Hi Jack,
Youtube is generally configured so you can't download stuff, only watch it. I think there's a way, but figuring that out is a step or two above my pay grade.
Jesse Tinsley
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  5:21:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
Here's another nice video about the steel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BWS-VklBo&

Jesse Tinsley
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islandboo
Lokahi

USA
237 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  5:24:26 PM  Show Profile
quote:
How can I download that off youtube?


Try this site:

http://vixy.net/
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  6:07:03 PM  Show Profile
At Keaka's suggestion, I've put my Dobro in a C13. Extremely kewl! I have the advantage in that Jack is close and we jam 2 -3 times a month. I've had to learn to play softer, not Bluegrass. I hold my right hand farther from the bridge for a more nahenahe, sweet sound. Less crisp, not as bright as in Bluegrass, but it shows off the resonator;s dynamics. I leave the Dobro on my couch so I play it instead of watching cartoons.
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu

USA
1533 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  6:42:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit hapakid's Homepage
Thanks for the suggestion, Islandboo.
The video conversion works great.

Jesse Tinsley
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JohnnyFaster
Aloha

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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  1:26:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit JohnnyFaster's Homepage
Reid,

Jerry Byrd is, as you know, a great model for this playing. Think "call and response." The singer is the "call" and teh steel is the "response." The response can continue the singer's line or respond in harmony.

It's a different musical form, but blues uses the same chords and 12 or 8 bar structure as slack key. Listen to some just-post-Delta or early-Chicago blues. The guitar player, before blues guitar players became hot-doggers, play beautiful, simple repsonses to the singers' calls. Perhaps Buddy Guy, who, ironically, later became the prototype for all hot-doggers, including Hendrix and SRV, was best. His early work with Junior Wells on Hoodoo Man Blues and his own A Man and the Blues will give you great ideas.
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