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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
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 Posted - 05/12/2007 : 11:31:26 AM
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| I don't frequent myspace. I take it, from your response you are non Hawaiian with a passion to learn all things Hawaiian . You are Hawaiian at heart, so to speak. You have a long way to go with lots of great music to enjoy. Good luck... |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 12:29:25 AM
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Originally posted by hikabe
I don't frequent myspace. I take it, from your response you are non Hawaiian with a passion to learn all things Hawaiian . You are Hawaiian at heart, so to speak. You have a long way to go with lots of great music to enjoy. Good luck...
Mahalo nui loa. Nani na mele o Hawai'i Nei, 'ae? |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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hikabe
Lokahi
USA
358 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2007 : 5:38:14 PM
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| Sorry. I don't speak Hawaiian. Please translate your response in English. I think you said thank you very much. What is the second line mean. |
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2007 : 03:50:12 AM
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hiram,
alex wrote "The songs of Hawai'i here are pretty, yes?"
on another topic - i went to watch the myspace video of king kukulele. the schtick i saw him do at disneyland was better than the video. i guess he's been developing in a way that he sees mainlanders appreciating?
aloha,
keith
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2007 : 2:09:35 PM
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Originally posted by marzullo
hiram,
alex wrote "The songs of Hawai'i here are pretty, yes?"
on another topic - i went to watch the myspace video of king kukulele. the schtick i saw him do at disneyland was better than the video. i guess he's been developing in a way that he sees mainlanders appreciating?
aloha,
keith
E kala mai, but I prefer to be called Alika by you all. I think my real name is too common! Every time I hear my name being said by kids at school, I say, "Yeah?" and they're like, "No, not you, a different Alex." I think if I changed my name to my Hawaiian name, then I wouldn't have to worry about that happening. Yeah? lol |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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marzullo
`Olu`olu
USA
923 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2007 : 2:41:58 PM
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e 'alika e, aloha,
apologies...
as someone who grew up with (at that time) an uncommon name, i can tell you that some of us longed for a name that everyone could spell and pronounce. :)
aloha,
keith
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2007 : 09:31:29 AM
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Originally posted by marzullo
e 'alika e, aloha,
apologies...
as someone who grew up with (at that time) an uncommon name, i can tell you that some of us longed for a name that everyone could spell and pronounce. :)
aloha,
keith
I love my Hawaiian name because it's also the name of a song.
(sings) Aia i Aaaaaa-liiiiii-kaaaaaa!
(That's how I wrote it as my display name on myspace... hahaha!)
Anyone wanna add me? Go right ahead if you haven't already! I'll accept. |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2007 : 5:37:57 PM
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Hawaiian music is sometimes described as poetry put to song. I t either describes a place a person an event or woteva. Today it follows western musical convention and uses western instruments. Usually the music is recognized by the use of the Hawaiian language but english lyrics can suffice if Hawaiian poetic conventions are observed. There should be no dogmatic outlook to this subject. For example should we not consider Alex Anderson's compositions as being Hawaiian music? One need not be ethnic Hawaiian to write Hawaiian songs. I think when someone hears a song and says that sounds Hawaiian to me, might just be enough. Also consider Liko Martin's Nanakuli Blues recorded as Waimanalo Blues by Country Comfort seems Hawaiian to me. Just watch the Hoku's awards program. Hawaiian music and local music are broken into categories for the sake of creating an opportunity to give away a lot of trophies. Ethmnomusicologists aren't able to answer these questions so why are we trying.
Just kick back and enjoy. Oh yeah the use of vamps are prevalent in Hawaiian music too. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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hawaiianmusiclover06
`Olu`olu
USA
562 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 11:34:16 AM
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| The way that I would define "Hawaiian" music is Hawaiian poetry put into a song. It also incorporates sone Hawaiian language in it. |
Aloha Kakou, maluhia a me aloha mau loa (Hello everyone, peace and love forever) |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 10:40:07 PM
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| I consider myself a native Hawaiian. It does not mean that I know anything about my own culture that I would insist on teaching others. The Hawaiian people I grew up among in Chinatown were just people. If they spoke the language they hid it. My friends father would play Kiho'alu on the porch every night. It was pleasing to hear him. His son played doo wop but he was Hawaiian who played music. Why do people need categories? Try read this link re: hapa-haole music, http://www.honoluluweekly.com/archives/coverstory%202003/08-13-03%20Hapa/08-13-03%20Hapa.html. It is very interesting and it just tells a story about the history of Hawaii for a short period of time. I wonder why Hawaiians and their music need to be identified and categorized and studied like we are artifacts. We live and we play and we sing all kinds of music some times its jazz with Hawaiian words and sometimes it country with English words about falling in love in Hawaii. Whats the difference? It is all music and that is universal. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 12:19:11 AM
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Al, my brother, you are so right! Some things just need to be enjoyed and experienced, plain and simple. It is the feeling of aloha that permeates music of Hawai`i that attracts so many peoplle, and this is a feeling that we do not experience in any other kind of music. For those of us who were not born and raised in Hawai`i, that feeling is so foreign to us and so wonderful to experience, that we try to analyze it instead of just letting the feeling wash over us.
Example: I lent one of my business colleagues a CD by Led Kaapana. My colleague knows nothing of the language, the history, etc. He doesn't know from kiho`alu, or hapa-haole or nothing. But he told me that it was the most amazing music he had ever heard and that it was so relaxing. He wanted to know more and where to get the music from....so Auntie Maria, you will shortly have another customer from Cleveland, OH.
PS: Al, your link posted above, does not work. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 12:43:32 AM
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Wcerto,
You're right I guess its an expired magazine article. It's funny though I justread it and the people being interviewd was Holt-Takamine a kumu hula and Desoto Brown of the Bishop Museum. They had excellent points about the validity and the important role that hapa-haole music had in the preservation of parts of Hawaiian culture and music. Since the link does not work I'll probably never find it again. It just popped up when I was looking for song lyrics. By the way does anyone have words for U.S.E.D ? |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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Puna
Lokahi
USA
227 Posts |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2007 : 3:51:54 PM
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| you da bomb. Thas da one. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:35:16 AM
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| Puna, thanks. Al, thanks for posting that link. That was a very interesting artaicle to read. As I have discovered lately, not all that hapa-haole stuff was as innocuous as I would have thought. The stuff written by people who had nothing whatsoever to do with Hawai`i have not survived the years. However, the true hapa-haole stuff had a lot more complexity to them, both in the music and the lyrics. Take for instance, my recent epiphany regarding "Maui Girl". I do believe if the haoles knew what it was really saying that they would have been scandalized back in the day. Same-same for many of the others. Now the feeling I am gettiing about them is that the writers of the mele had to capitulate to the haole tastes somewhat in order to make a bit of money with their music; however, it seems that they did not entirely surrender and surreptitiously slipped things into the songs that would get a chuckle and a wink from those in the know and from those not in the know...it sounded exotic and they figured they got what they paid for..."THE HAWAIIAN EXPERIENCE". |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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