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Pupule

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  09:19:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message
Hawaii's Big Island on hurricane watch for Flossie

Wishing our BI `ohana well. Please check in when you can.

Andy

da_joka
Lokahi

361 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2007 :  10:57:22 AM  Show Profile
At least statistics is on da side of da Big Island folks eh? No hurricane since 1871!

If can, can. If no can, no can.
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  12:19:47 PM  Show Profile
quote:
At least statistics is on da side of da Big Island folks eh? No hurricane since 1871!
Unfortunately, that is not the way the statistics work, just like earthquakes, the longer since the last one the more likely to be hit.

Wishing good luck for all in Hawaii in any case.

I have a friend joining a Cruise, probably in Hilo yesterday, at the very least he will probably experience some pretty bad weather in a couple of days.


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 08/13/2007 12:22:49 PM
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cpatch
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  12:44:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit cpatch's Homepage  Send cpatch an AOL message
quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence

quote:
At least statistics is on da side of da Big Island folks eh? No hurricane since 1871!
Unfortunately, that is not the way the statistics work, just like earthquakes, the longer since the last one the more likely to be hit.

The odds of a hurricane hitting a particular area have nothing to do with whether one hit the previous year (just like the odds of a coin toss returning heads is the same regardless of the outcome of the previous flip). The odds of an earthquake increase the longer an area has gone without one due to the nature of earthquakes.

Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can.

Edited by - cpatch on 08/13/2007 12:46:59 PM
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  3:13:11 PM  Show Profile
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The odds of a hurricane hitting a particular area have nothing to do with whether one hit the previous year (just like the odds of a coin toss returning heads is the same regardless of the outcome of the previous flip).
:


The coin is a good example: Yes, the odds in any particular year are relatively constant, but we are talking about a sequence here. Say that not getting a hurricane is "heads" and that the odds each year are 50-50 (like the coin). What are the odds of NOT GETTING a hurricane for ten years in a row? (hint: same as not getting tails for ten tosses in a row = 1/(2^10) = 1 in 1024 or about .1 percent ). Odds of sequences are different than the odds of a single event. Of course the mathematical probability of getting tails remains the same at 50% but in order to conform to the statistical average over time the event is overdue. (unless the average is wrong)

Not quite like the earthquake (no stress buildup) but the basic point is that a long run of "heads" means that the event outcomes have to eventually swing the other way to bring the long term statistics in line. Unless, of course the long term probability is changing (due to global warming or whatever).

Probably (pun intended) should have said "like winning at the same slot machine XX times in a row" instead of "just like earthquakes".

Nothing is just like earthquakes... EXCEPT EARTHQUAKES
(only more so!)


Mahope Kākou...
...El Lorenzo de Ondas Sonoras

Edited by - Lawrence on 08/14/2007 07:23:13 AM
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wcerto
Ahonui

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  4:38:36 PM  Show Profile
Lawrence -- gonna draw one OC curve?

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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hawaiianmusiclover06
`Olu`olu

USA
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quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence

quote:
At least statistics is on da side of da Big Island folks eh? No hurricane since 1871!
Unfortunately, that is not the way the statistics work, just like earthquakes, the longer since the last one the more likely to be hit.

Wishing good luck for all in Hawaii in any case.

I have a friend joining a Cruise, probably in Hilo yesterday, at the very least he will probably experience some pretty bad weather in a couple of days.





I am keeping an eye out for Hurricane Flossie. It is bound to hit O'ahu on Tuesday. I live on O'ahu.

Aloha Kakou, maluhia a me aloha mau loa (Hello everyone, peace and love forever)
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da_joka
Lokahi

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Posted - 08/13/2007 :  8:32:46 PM  Show Profile
Talking about probability, what's the chances of getting both an earthquake AND being brushed by a hurricane in a 24 hour period?

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Aug/13/br/br3716294580.html

Hawai`i no ka oi!

If can, can. If no can, no can.
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  12:00:47 AM  Show Profile
Looks like Pele and Kamapua`a are getting bored. Ho`omakaukau.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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alika207
Ha`aha`a

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Just wanted to send my mana'o out to everybody from Hawai'i Nei who may be on this board. Hope you stay safe during the hurricane.

Me ke aloha pumehana,
'Alika

He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.

'Alika / Polinahe
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Konabob
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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  07:26:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Konabob's Homepage  Send Konabob an AOL message
We also had a large meteor leave a con trail across the sky about 7 PM last nite. Nature is really somethin, aint it?
It is quiet and dry in Kona this morning with bright sunshine. I better call Dennis Lake in a little while. He lives in
South Point. He will get the worst of things.

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Momi
Lokahi

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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  07:54:35 AM  Show Profile
KB, I wonder if you saw an early Perseid meteor. These guys are supposed to be much more frequent after midnight, and much much more frequent after 2 a.m. The heaviest concentration of meteors was supposed to occur on Sunday night.

We're thinking good thoughts for all the Moku o Keawe folks. Hang in there.
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Konabob
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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  08:00:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Konabob's Homepage  Send Konabob an AOL message
Yep! People have been seeing them over the last couple days...

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Konabob
`Olu`olu

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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  09:33:59 AM  Show Profile  Visit Konabob's Homepage  Send Konabob an AOL message
Click Here http://www.konaweb.com/flossie.html
It is a temporary page....
Aloha,
-Konabob

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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
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Posted - 08/14/2007 :  11:28:07 AM  Show Profile
My Granpa had a cow named Flossie. A Guernsey. Does that make me a paniolo?

Looks like it might stay away far enough that no bad stuff will happen, but please remember all you Big Island folks....take care...be prepared. We are keeping you in our thoughts.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda

Edited by - wcerto on 08/14/2007 11:29:18 AM
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