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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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 Posted - 09/09/2007 : 06:58:29 AM
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Pidgin Grammar
This is a serious book on Pidgin Grammar and makes a very good academic study. It will become a valuable reference book.
This link has the whole book on line, so you can learn for free.
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
Edited by - wcerto on 09/12/2007 09:55:33 AM |
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da_joka
Lokahi
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 3:08:08 PM
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eh Wanda ... ho some nerdy eh da book ... i tink da "Pidgin to da Max" books helps make mo sense ... especially wit all da pichas inside, but all da non-locals bettah read da introduction (warning) befo talking all kine stuffs eh?
One good ting about dis book (da one you wen post about) is dat it proves dat da pidgin get stuc-cha. I know, guavasunrise wen go talk about da pidgin too ... good! All of us who talk liddat gotta try keep um alive. I already know my kids not goin be able fo talk liddat, jus cuz we stay on top da mainland. But, even in Hawaii, my kid sistah, she wen grow up on O`ahu (an me on da Big Island), an no can undastan me even, sometimes.
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If can, can. If no can, no can. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 6:24:17 PM
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| I wen read da book awready. About time da language get respec'. In Europe, planny countries recognize dialect, even in school. |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2007 : 9:00:50 PM
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| Interesting. Only I like put my 2 kenikeni insi'. Pdigin in the 1800's during the groth of the plantation period was Pidgin Hawaiian.. The main language was Hawaiian and errybody who wen' come Hawai'i had fo lern Hawaiian first. Not Pelekane. So dis book is about today kine Pidgin not the original pidgin. But all the language elements went carry ovah from dat. So da buk wen foget fo say dat da gramma is mo close to Hawaiian language den Pelekane. So das all i get fo say. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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da_joka
Lokahi
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2007 : 09:51:08 AM
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Eh Wanda ... i tink da title of da post should be "no shame talk dakine"
We no "speak" pidgin ... we jus talk liddat ... :-) |
If can, can. If no can, no can. |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2007 : 09:56:26 AM
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2007 : 1:19:54 PM
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I like say:
No like learn it cuz I from Maine. I can understand it but no can speak it dat maika'i! Haha.
Dajoka, plz e-mail me, I like say something privately.
'Alika |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
2368 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2008 : 09:02:31 AM
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*BUMP*
One of our Seattle public-radio stations will be doing an hour on "Creole languages" - I don't know if they will touch on Pidgin in Hawai`i, however (though I will mention it to them).
In the Seattle area, you can listen on 94.9 FM (as well as other stations and translators in Olympia & Bellingham). Outside the region, listen to the live stream at www.kuow.org. After that, the show is usually available as a podcast through the website.
Here's the details on the upcoming segment ---
Weekday with Steve Scher
KUOW 94.9 FM
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Thursday - March 20th at 9:00 - 10:00 am PT
A Look at the World's Lowliest Languages
When it comes to world languages, there is a hierarchy. European languages are highly regarded. Creole languages are not. Though spoken the world over, Creoles are so poorly regarded that many people don't even consider them real languages. Are they legitimate? Where do these "lesser languages" come from? How do they survive through generations? What do they teach us about our common humanity? We take a look at the world's "lowliest languages" on Weekday.
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weekday @ kuow.org
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