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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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 Posted - 07/16/2008 : 4:48:22 PM
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Since I have started collecting vintage Hawaiian Music, mainly LPs but also a few 45's, I have really fallen in love with the recordings put out by the Waikiki Record Label. They only actively recorded from 1958 to 1966, but they put down on vinyl people like Gabby, Andy Cummings, Pua Almeida, Haunani Kahalewai, Bill Lincoln, Sol K. Bright, etc, etc, and some really astounding people you never hear about like Fely Gabriel and Mikilani Fo.
Does anyone know where I can get a complete listing of the albums and 45's that were made by Waikiki Records. I have a copy of an old catalog from "The House of Music" From 1981 and it lists 34 different albums, but I don't know if it is complete, because there are some gaps in the number sequence.
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
Edited by - markwitz on 07/21/2008 1:22:50 PM |
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2008 : 6:35:46 PM
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It's not quite what you're looking for, but the discographic tool I use most often is Brett Ortone's now-OP Island Music Source Book. It's organized by song title and artist, but each entry includes label and number data, so it would be possible (if tedious) to construct a Waikiki list. Of course, Ortone's intro suggests that he worked from a computer database, which means *he* should be able to produce a list of albums for any label. (Assuming he can sort on label and album-title fields.)
The only Waikiki other list I know of is the very short one of singles and albums at the back of Hawaiian Music and Musicians--14 LPs and 15 45s. The "Record Industry" article says that there were 33 LPs and 200 singles still available as of 1978 (the book's copyright date is 1979), so your catalog might not be too far off.
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keoladonaghy
Lokahi
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Posted - 07/21/2008 : 9:40:01 PM
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I have a copy of Brett's database and he's given us permission to reformat it and make it searchable on Ulukau (http://ulukau.org). We'll get to it at some point, but I'm not sure exactly when as it's not among our higher priorities for the site. I'm hoping to create a music wing on Ulukau at some point as well, but it may have to wait until my Ph.d. work is done. As soon as Brett's database is searchable I'll post here and on Nahenahe as well.
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 : 09:02:30 AM
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Bob did this project a couple of years ago -- for our own use. So I just did a search for all the Waikiki Records...and found many titles missing (or credited to wrong artist). Here's what did come through, though:
#112 - Authentic Music of Kauai, Maui
309 - Kalakaua
310 - Beyond the Reef
311 - Kuuipo I Ka Hee Pue One
312 - Kaui, Maui, Hawaii (sic)
313 - East is West
314 - Surf Rider
315 - In Concert
316 - On the Beach at Waikiki
317 - Kuuipo, My Sweetheart
318 - Songs of Heavenly Hana
319 - Hawaiian Slack Key Vol 1
320 - Hawaiian Slack Key Vol 2
321 - Songs of Old Hawaii
322 - Love Songs of Tahiti
323 - Do the Hula
no #324 in book
325 - 3 Ukuleles
326 - Somewhere in Hawaii
327 - My Son Pua
no #328 in book
329 - Best of Hawaii's Melodies
330 - Reflections of Richard Kauhi
331 - Anthems of Hawaii
332 - Hawaii's Sunset Melodies
333 - Quiet Lagoon
334 - In Hawaii the Story Starts
335 - Hawaii...Recipe for Romance
336 - Hawaiian Hula Music
337 - Dancing Under the Stars
338 - Regal Refrains from Hawaii
no #339 in book
340 - Best of Hawaiian Slack Key
and then we jump all the way to...
399 - Pearly Shells
There are many album titles listed in the book without record label information...I suspect some of them may be the missing Waikiki titles. |
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cpatch
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 : 09:45:21 AM
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Here are a few more:
??? Poolside Music
102 Kodak Hula Show
107 Hawai`i Aloha: Echoes of Old Hawaii
108 Stringing Along With You, Hawaiian Style
122 Love Songs of Tahiti
124 Duke Kahanamoku's Favorites
125 3 Ukuleles
129 The Best of Hawaii's Melodies
301 Luau at Queen's Surf
302 Kodak Hula Show
304 Lovely Hula Hands
305 Keep Your Eyes on the Hands
Note that three of the 100 series are renumberings of LPs in Auntie Maria's list...I believe that they're mono recordings that were later released again in stereo in the 300 series. There's a good chance, therefore, that you can add the following to the list as well:
307 Hawai`i Aloha: Echoes of Old Hawaii
308 Stringing Along With You, Hawaiian Style
324: Duke Kahanamoku's Favorites |
Craig
My goal is to be able to play as well as people think I can. |
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
504 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 10:17:29 AM
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Since we're doing discographic puzzlements of the Waikiki kind--in writing about Gabby's sideman activities, I figured out that the material on the compilation album The Best of Hawaiian Slack Key with Gabby Pahinui (Waikiki WCD-340) is drawn from earlier LPs (East Is West, 313; In Hawai`i the Story Starts, 334; Andy Cummings' Quiet Lagoon, 333) and a couple singles (45-585 and 45-558), but there are three tracks that I have not been able to trace back to their original releases: "Mahalo Nui" (a duet with Charles Miller), "Ka Ua Loko," and "Wai Hu`i O Ke Aniani." Has anybody spotted these tracks on LP or as singles?
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2008 : 11:16:35 AM
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First, let me say thank you to all above especially. Aunty Maria and cpatch for taking the time to type out lists.
Craig, I believe you are correct, the 100 series seems to be mono and the 300 series is stereo. I believe that 109/309 "Kalakaua-The Merry Monarch" is the same as 338 "Regal Refrains from Hawai'i" listed by Maria. I have 109, and the song list for 338, in the catalog that I have, is exactly the same.
The next thing I find interesting is on Aunty Maria's list. I can't find a reference to 311 "Ku'u ipo I Ka He'e Pua One" in the catalog that I have. Maria, have you actually seen a copy?
Same question for 399 "Pearly Shells"
This has been very helpful to me.
Now....how about the 200 or so 45's!!!! |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
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Peter Medeiros
`Olu`olu
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Posted - 07/22/2008 : 5:40:44 PM
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Originally posted by Russell Letson
Since we're doing discographic puzzlements of the Waikiki kind--in writing about Gabby's sideman activities, I figured out that the material on the compilation album The Best of Hawaiian Slack Key with Gabby Pahinui (Waikiki WCD-340) is drawn from earlier LPs (East Is West, 313; In Hawai`i the Story Starts, 334; Andy Cummings' Quiet Lagoon, 333) and a couple singles (45-585 and 45-558), but there are three tracks that I have not been able to trace back to their original releases: "Mahalo Nui" (a duet with Charles Miller), "Ka Ua Loko," and "Wai Hu`i O Ke Aniani." Has anybody spotted these tracks on LP or as singles?
Growing up I had most of these as singles. To my knowledge all of the Waikiki Label recordings were mono -- back then, in the 50's and early 60's the biggest market for the label was the hula student -- a 45 rpm recording was a little more than a half dollar. And although there were three track and stereo recorders in Hawaii from about the early to mid 60', the majority of Hawaiian LP's released during this period were mono.
Off the top of my head the Waikiki #340, "The Best of Hawaiian Slack Key" wasn't released until after Gabby died. I have forgotten which one -- it's in my office -- but I remember that on the 45 rpm "Ka Ua Loko" was the B side on either Hi'ilawe or "Wai Hu`i O Ke Aniani." "Mahalo Nui" was also a B side of "Moloka`i Nui Ahina" or on something he did either with Mikilani Fo or Varoa -- I lost that recording, When I go in next week I can probably find it. The 300 listings are all reissued as stereo. I still have albums with the 1 crossed out and a 3 placed over it with a red crayon. |
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 : 7:39:30 PM
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Many thanks,Peter--it's the little things that drive me nuts. Complete lack of Hawaiian language skills--no biggie. Not knowing the provenance of every recording or who's singing the high part on "Ke Kali Nei Au," however, gets me fussing and rummaging all over the place. I managed to backtrack most of the source albums for Waikiki 340 (which I discovered as a CD a dozen years ago) so I could get an idea of the kind of session work--and, by extension, club work--Gabby was doing in that pre-Sons period. It's really interesting material, particularly the lounge-y arrangements with vibes, flute, piano, and what sounds like a xylophone. Great stuff, and the players sound like they're having a lot of fun.
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 03:18:02 AM
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Originally posted by Russell Letson
I managed to backtrack most of the source albums for Waikiki 340 (which I discovered as a CD a dozen years ago) so I could get an idea of the kind of session work--and, by extension, club work--Gabby was doing in that pre-Sons period. It's really interesting material, particularly the lounge-y arrangements with vibes, flute, piano, and what sounds like a xylophone. Great stuff, and the players sound like they're having a lot of fun.
Russell, you just illustrated one of the things I like the most about these Waikiki recordings. Gabby's version of Ahulili found on LP #313 East Is West, and The Twain Shall Meet In Hawaii", is unlike anything he did with The Sons, or after. It's also on the single #45-274 with Mikilani Fo doing a heartbreaking version of "Two Shadows On The Sand" on the opposite side. Heartbreaking for me, because she had such a beautiful way of singing and she died at such an early age. Very few even know of her. But she comes alive again in these Waikiki records.
Getting back to the version of Gabby doing Ahulili, it can be found also on Cyril's CD "Ka Ho'oilina Mau" remastered to allow father and son to be re united on the same song.
Of the LP's I have 20 so far and 16 of the 45's. I have some duplicates of some of the 45's and a couple of the LP's. If anybody wants to trade, send me an email. |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
Edited by - markwitz on 07/23/2008 03:18:47 AM |
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hwnmusiclives
`Olu`olu
USA
580 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 04:25:48 AM
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Originally posted by Russell Letson
Since we're doing discographic puzzlements of the Waikiki kind--in writing about Gabby's sideman activities, I figured out that the material on the compilation album The Best of Hawaiian Slack Key with Gabby Pahinui (Waikiki WCD-340) is drawn from earlier LPs (East Is West, 313; In Hawai`i the Story Starts, 334; Andy Cummings' Quiet Lagoon, 333) and a couple singles (45-585 and 45-558), but there are three tracks that I have not been able to trace back to their original releases: "Mahalo Nui" (a duet with Charles Miller), "Ka Ua Loko," and "Wai Hu`i O Ke Aniani." Has anybody spotted these tracks on LP or as singles?
And "Duke Kahanamoku's Favorites" is simply a repackaging of "In Hawai'i The Story Starts." Same track list.
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Russell Letson
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 07/23/2008 : 05:09:28 AM
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Norman, that discographical nugget about the single version of "Ahulili" is exactly the kind of information that makes my day. And yeah, those arrangements, as odd as they might seem to anyone who comes to the music through the Dancing Cat recordings, tell me a lot about the musical environment that preceded and (in an interestingly reactive way) generated the aesthetic/stylistic approach we see in the Sons and the Gabby Band. It has been my assumption that those records reflect the kind of music that the same guys, often in the same combinations, were playing in the clubs--"East Is West" seems to be Eddie Spenser's band, and "In Hawai'i the Story Starts" features Queen's Surf regulars. I'm not sure whether they would have had all the resources to draw on (vibes, flutes, xylophones), but I'm guessing that the general approach and playfulness was there.
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wcerto
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 1:21:39 PM
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Originally posted by Russell Letson
Norman, that discographical nugget about the single version of "Ahulili" is exactly the kind of information that makes my day. And yeah, those arrangements, as odd as they might seem to anyone who comes to the music through the Dancing Cat recordings, tell me a lot about the musical environment that preceded and (in an interestingly reactive way) generated the aesthetic/stylistic approach we see in the Sons and the Gabby Band. It has been my assumption that those records reflect the kind of music that the same guys, often in the same combinations, were playing in the clubs--"East Is West" seems to be Eddie Spenser's band, and "In Hawai'i the Story Starts" features Queen's Surf regulars. I'm not sure whether they would have had all the resources to draw on (vibes, flutes, xylophones), but I'm guessing that the general approach and playfulness was there.
I fully agree.
"In Hawaii The Story Starts" has some really fun stuff on it. The two cuts that Gabby does with Varoa Tiki, "Hame Pila" and "The Pidgin English Hula" are priceless. |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 1:26:44 PM
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[/quote]And "Duke Kahanamoku's Favorites" is simply a repackaging of "In Hawai'i The Story Starts." Same track list.
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Eh, Bill
Thanks for that. Now I know I don't have to get that one, cause I got the other one.
Now how about that list for the 200 or so 45's  |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
Edited by - markwitz on 07/23/2008 1:54:08 PM |
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Auntie Maria
Ha`aha`a
USA
1918 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2008 : 2:15:28 PM
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Russell, this will really fry you. Eddie Kamae told me he's on one of Gabby's albums but -- due to contractual obligations with another record label -- his name could not appear on Gabby's release. He was surprised that I was surprised by this information...and told me that was just one example of many similar recordings!!!
Sheesh...I'm sooooooo confused....  |
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