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Bill Campbell
Akahai
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 Posted - 09/14/2011 : 3:03:26 PM
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OK. First off, I am not posting this to start an argument. So, those of you who think that you need to send a caustic reply can save it for another post.
I am writing as a testimonial to a product. A few months ago, I was browsing through the comments on Taropatch.net, and I came across a topic about the Bose L1 system. There were the usual pros and cons, but Mark Nelson said that the investment of the extra money was well worth it, and that was good enough for me. If Mark says it, you can 'take it to the bank'.
So, I ordered one from Musicians Friend. When it arrived, I very carefully unpacked it, plugged in the power, plugged in my most recent guitar acquisition, an Ibanez AEG10NE-BKF-2Y-01, (which was already tuned to Taro Patch tuning), turned the power switch to ON, and waited to see what sort of adjustments I would need to make to the Bose or the Ibanez in order to get an acceptable sound. To my amazement, and also to that of my wife, Holly, who was in another room, I heard the most beautiful tone that I have ever heard come from any of my other amps. She came in and said, 'Wow, that is a fantastic sound'. (Which was good to hear inasmuch as we have a joint checking account and the Bose is as much hers as it is mine).
I was amazed, floored, pleased, disbelieving, whatever, and really had to pinch myself to believe that it was indeed I who was producing this sound. Needless to say, I can't stop playing with it. I guess it means that I will have to get rid of my other amps, because none of them, Peavey, Crate, or Fender can touch this unit for sound quality.
So, thank you Mark for insisting that the investment is worth it. And, I would like to second the motion. If you want to sound like you really want to sound, spend the extra money on this system.
BTW, and here is a commercial announcement, if any of you are going to be in the Williamsburg, Virginia area on Saturday, Oct. 1, 2011, visit the annual 'An Occasion for the Arts' in Colonial Williamsburg, stop by the Henry Street stage at 12:45 PM, and hear for yourself how I sound with this new addition to 'my arsenal'. I'm sure that you will be as pleased as I am with it.
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a
USA
1022 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 4:08:25 PM
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 02:30:46 AM
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one sort of neutral comment:
"Da Kine Music Gear" is very expensive. |
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Lawrence
Ha`aha`a
USA
1597 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 08:55:24 AM
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Glad you like the sound Bill, I have used them and performed with them a few times and also have been in the audience and I do not particularly like the sound, but this is a matter of personal preference.
What is not personal preference is that the engineering standards of this equipment is of inferior quality, especially considering the price charged. This is measurable fact, and is generally characteristic of all Bose equipment. Bose is not the only company that uses cheap low grade components, for instance Behringer does as well, but Behringer charges the appropriate price for what they make.
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Mahope Kākou...
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Edited by - Lawrence on 09/15/2011 08:57:37 AM |
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
USA
90 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 1:01:29 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by chunky monkey
Was this a model 1 or 2? I may not have the version label correct?
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
USA
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 9:54:20 PM
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The sound depends on the venue. I have used it in a small courtyard and it was sufficient. I used it at a party and it was ok except I could not get my Taylor to sound right. I used it in a school cafeteria from a stage and I could not be heard towards the back Over all in a small room it was really great but larger spaces challenged the systems capability to produce a good sound. So I have mixed feelings about it. Since I moved to WA it has not left the box for 4 years I am thinking of selling it.
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2011 : 02:48:14 AM
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Bill,
Are you amplifying acoustic sound, acoustic guitar plugged in with effects, or electric?
On your site most of the tracks have effects and sound processed (as opposed to a straight-up acoustic sound). |
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Edited by - RWD on 09/16/2011 02:49:21 AM |
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Bill Campbell
Akahai
USA
90 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2011 : 5:42:00 PM
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Originally posted by RWD
Bill,
Are you amplifying acoustic sound, acoustic guitar plugged in with effects, or electric?
On your site most of the tracks have effects and sound processed (as opposed to a straight-up acoustic sound).
I am using the guitar(s) directly into the Bose. No effects, no tricks, no illusions, no smoke, no mirrors. The guitars that I have used with the Bose (and I have only had it for about 2 weeks) are a Hirade HP5R acoustic, nylon string, concert classical guitar, and the Ibanez that I mentioned in my original post, which also has nylon strings.
The cord comes out of the tail of the guitar into the only Bose input (other than the mic input). That is the beauty of the system, its simplicity. Just plugged the guitar into the Bose, set the levels on the Bose and guitar such that there is no distortion (not that hard to do), and, voila, a great sound.
Now, I have also plugged the guitars into my Roland 8 track recorder, then from the recorder to the Bose, and toyed with the various effects of the Roland, but I don't do that in public. Too complicated for an old dude like me. If I had my druthers, I would just sit on a stump and play the thing totally acoustically. But, you can't do that with a crowd (prolly more than 2 people listening).
But, I think that you are referring to the cuts on my CD that have various effects, and it is very astute of you to notice this. I recorded each of the 18 tracks directly into the Roland, straight, with either the Takamine or the Hirade, and then I played with the effects after I was done (post-processing I guess the big boys call it), so that it sounds as if I were playing a different guitar on each track. Which is what I intended it to do.
But, in public performances, I have generally played into a Fender, then from it into a Crate, adding effects (only chorus, reverb, delay) with the Roland. Or, according to how much I got paid, into just one of the amps with no effects at all. But, the sounds were never as true as the one I am hearing with this Bose.
I am rather a purist, and I like to sit and play my guitar totally acoustic, no amplification at all. But, as you know, that sound doesn't carry very far, and it becomes necessary to do some sort of amplification in order for folks to hear it above the din of a crowd or even in a concert setting for folks who are seated more than a few rows back.
I have experimented with my own amps, house systems, other people's systems, but the first time that I have ever heard a sound that sounded to me exactly like the acoustic sound, but amplified, was with this Bose. And, that is why I am so excited about it. I hope I answered your question. |
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RWD
`Olu`olu
USA
850 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 9:59:47 PM
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I am with you on liking pure acoustic sound and nylon guitars. However, I hardly ever plug in anymore. I never get the sound I want when I plug in no matter what device I use to correct the signal. I have been close using a baggs PADI and I go that way when I need the volume.
Now--as I will this Sunday--I just use a Shure Beta 57A super-cardioid into a Roland AC-60. The draw back is that I have to stay positioned on the mic when playing but the sound is pretty accurate. |
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Edited by - RWD on 09/17/2011 10:00:36 PM |
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Doug Fitch
Akahai
USA
80 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2011 : 11:34:43 PM
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| I have a really cool little AER amp with 2 channels (guitar and mic). Its the best sounding I've heard. Nonetheless, someday I want to get the Bose compact version (also just 2 channels) because of the super quick in and out from a venue time. The sound is pretty dang awesome too. |
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2011 : 7:37:18 PM
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| Led has this little box he hangs on the mike stand. No matter where he plays the sound is natural. It doesnʻt matter if it is a uke , a guitar or an auto harp. he can also get some mean reverb effects if he chooses. I have never asked him about that box but it is pretty cool. Maybe Fran knows. |
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