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Mike Anderson
Akahai
Canada
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 Posted - 01/28/2013 : 09:49:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mike Anderson
The haole culture has a problem: neophilia, and it infects the whole world, because haole culture represents prosperity. The desperate NEED to have the new in our faces all the time. Childish boredom and lack of focus. Combine that with the equally childish "it's all about ME!" that infects our culture, and you have this "everyone can be a successful artist" crap that has resulted in reality TV and other entertainment phenomena that have as much to do with genuine talent, creativity, and artistic drive as a Slap-Chop commercial. NOT everyone is an artist - or at least one that needs to be heard publicly; that attitude is the reason cultures become homogenized in a desperate attempt to obtain commercial success by playing the way the dominant (haole) culture plays; it is the reason we are inundated with homogeneous CRAP on TV and the airwaves and iTunes and the bloody grocery store.
To sit there and say that adhering to tradition or playing an "outdated" style is "museum stuff" is beyond insulting. Really? You're THAT GOOD that everyone (or anyone) needs to hear your "new" sound? I'll tell you who nailed it: Alika with that first post. Yes, I have seen "Celtic" music that is hard rock with bagpipes in my own city. And I played real Celtic music for years, and I'll tell you which audience I'd rather play for: the ones who are there for the REAL DEAL, not pop-schlock calling itself Celtic. Cultural homogeneity is NOT cool, not even if it puts a dollar in your pocket. If that's all it's about, go find another career because we already have a gross superfluity of bands like that. What we DON'T have is people who give a damn about preserving what's worth preserving, and expanding on that.
You know a good way to express yourself without mutating music out of recognition and calling it "creativity"? It's called improvisation. Learn it, use it.
reverse racism dude thanks for the "lesson"
The truth can hurt, yes. Would you like a Band-Aid? Bactine? There's no such thing as "reverse" racism, BTW, and I'm a haole myself.
Huh, I keep trying to edit this reply and it's not working. Gabriel, I understand your point, but it's based on not knowing me AND not understanding what I was trying to say. I think I have a right to criticize MY culture. No, I KNOW I have that right. What I said comes out of a passion for music, especially the true, authentic stuff played from the heart. How do you think a kumu hula would feel if, say, I chose to include chant in a heavy metal tune? Well, maybe that's how it feels to me when someone puts bagpipes in a rock band and plays traditional Celtic songs as if they were made for people to pogo to in the mosh pit. Okay? People say "it's all good" - that's lazy. It ain't all good. Some of it is poo, and it is no crime to say so.
And all my thoughts about the shallowness of our culture, especially our musical culture still stands. I am expressing observations made in over 35 years of musical life and plenty more of just plain living. You don't have to like what I say, but it really is from the heart. |
It's never too late to have a happy childhood! |
Edited by - Mike Anderson on 01/28/2013 12:50:34 PM |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2013 : 06:57:21 AM
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| Freedom of expression comes only with discipline. I'm free to play some guitar because I've practiced a bit. I'm not free to play piano because I haven't disciplined myself with practice to play it. Music is a form of communication. Communication between cultures is more than a dictionary or learning a tune or tuning. Nuance, gratitude, sharing, respect all play a part. At least we have digital tuners. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2013 : 2:09:27 PM
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| "Civilization" seems to be about more and more knowing less and less. Increased specialization, automation, and commercialization of novelty tends to "dumb down" a population. Add to this the glut of personally useless information from the media, familial fragmentation induced by economic pressures and ever shrinking attention spans of folks because of TV, computers, etc and the picture ain't purty. But, on the other hand, if the tools be used properly, we can learn, make friendships and buy useful items for the playing of music. It's a 2-edged sword, stay on the better side. |
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Retro
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2013 : 2:56:03 PM
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
I'm not free to play piano because I haven't disciplined myself with practice to play it.
Actually, you are completely free to play piano all you wish. And we are free to not listen, if we choose. |
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2013 : 11:06:03 AM
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Originally posted by Retro
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Originally posted by thumbstruck
I'm not free to play piano because I haven't disciplined myself with practice to play it.
Actually, you are completely free to play piano all you wish. And we are free to not listen, if we choose.
And I'll listen to any pianist because I am one too! |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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