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Emerogork
Aloha

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Posted - 08/26/2013 :  10:35:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but I have some experience with classical guitar. Is there a simple file or video to show me how to re-tune my guitar?

I have become hooked on Leward Kaapana playing the Slack Key Lullaby and would like to know how to get the sheet music. I may never sound as good but maybe learn how how to play along with what I can pick up?

Is there anything special about the finger picks?

TerryLiberty
Lokahi

USA
207 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2013 :  1:40:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit TerryLiberty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aloha! E komo mai!

You've found the real thing in the Taropatch. To begin learning, I'd highly recommend looking at the resources on the site (click "Learn" on the home page) for books, DVD's and other sources of info. There are some excellent resources out there - certainly enough to keep a person going for a lifetime. One thing you'll learn is that there are many tunings, so get ready for some real variety. You might also search You Tube for videos. There's an awful lot of stuff out there as well.

Here's a starter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_BR_YiA7pY

Easy to become hooked on Ledward for sure. He's an amazing player. As far as the finger picks are concerned, some folks use them and others don't. Best to experiment and see what works for you.

I'd recommend paying close attention to the history, lore and spiritual qualities of the music as well. As a mainland-born kid I was struck by the deep connection between this music and Hawaiian culture and history. They're inseparable and the beauty of the music is enhanced with a little knowledge and respect.

You've embarked on quite a journey!

Good luck and come back often.

Terry

Olympia, WA
Forever a haumana
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a

USA
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Posted - 08/26/2013 :  5:44:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit Fran Guidry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emerogork

but I have some experience with classical guitar. Is there a simple file or video to show me how to re-tune my guitar?

I have become hooked on Leward Kaapana playing the Slack Key Lullaby and would like to know how to get the sheet music. I may never sound as good but maybe learn how how to play along with what I can pick up?

Is there anything special about the finger picks?





The "taropatch" or basic tuning is open G - D G D G B D low to high. Tune your lowest pitched E down to D. Tune your A to G. Tune your high pitched E to D. Many of the melodic motifs in "Slack Key Lullaby" and many other pieces are in the harmonized scale on the 1st and 3rd strings.

The tablature and notation for "Slack Key Lullaby" was included in my copy of Ledward's instructional video: http://www.amazon.com/DVD-The-Hawaiian-Guitar-Ledward-Kaapana/dp/B000CEGXZ0

I would assume that it is still in this latest edition.

Ledward was encouraged to use picks by his uncle in order to generate enough volume for parties without amplification. Now that we have mics and pickups and amps and PA systems we don't need picks (grin).

Fran

E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
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Edited by - Fran Guidry on 08/26/2013 5:47:06 PM
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Emerogork
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7 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2013 :  09:03:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
The tablature and notation for "Slack Key Lullaby" was included in my copy of Ledward's instructional video: http://www.amazon.com/DVD-The-Hawaiian-Guitar-Ledward-Kaapana/dp/B000CEGXZ0


I have never found any form of instruction to work for me. When I learned guitar, it was a method of finding interesting sheet music (typically for piano) and figuring out which note represented each letter on the scale then finding that note/letter on the strings of the guitar. My favorite was Erik Satie - #1 Gymnopédie. I worked that out using the first three frets and finding the string to play for each note. First the main theme, then added the chords and background.

Now it looks as if I will be finding the notes on the highest three strings and the base notes on the lowest three and now working up and down the neck for the melody.

Right now I would like to see the sheet music for the Slack Key Lullaby only and will learn it as if I was a background player and performing with him. Learn the base notes first and enjoy matching the YouTube video. Eventually playing more as I develop.

Right now, I am sure that a video and song book of many pieces on sheet music might be the way to go but being unemployed, it certainly is not in the budget.

Is it possible to purchase the sheet music for just the lullaby?


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Allen M Cary
Lokahi

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2013 :  07:19:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Emer
Haven't you ever heard that the way to make a guitarist stop playing is to put sheet music in front of him--LOL
Actually there are several books of Slack that have both the music and the tabs. Also if you have a music writing program like Musedit or others, you can have the program transcribe tabs into musical notation.
At any rate, enjoy the ride.
BTW, Jeff Peterson is a classically trained guitarist, so he can read music too--unlike most of the rest of us.
Aloha,
Allen
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Emerogork
Aloha

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Posted - 08/29/2013 :  5:09:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Before I spend a lot of time shopping, and buying, and shopping, and buying books that may or may not have the specific piece, maybe someone can direct me to a specific book, or page, for the music on the "Slack Key Lullaby".

At the moment, school has restarted and I have two assignments (54 students, argh...)to develop so my guitar ambition is curbed a bit.

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Admin
Pupule

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quote:
Originally posted by Emerogork

Now it looks as if I will be finding the notes on the highest three strings and the base notes on the lowest three and now working up and down the neck for the melody.

Right now I would like to see the sheet music for the Slack Key Lullaby only and will learn it as if I was a background player and performing with him. Learn the base notes first and enjoy matching the YouTube video. Eventually playing more as I develop.
So how is it going?

Slack Key Lullaby is a good one to learn by watching and listening. Straight bass notes and open/closed position for the melody.

Like Fran already posted, this video comes with the tablature.

Good luck. Let us know how you are progressing.

Andy
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Emerogork
Aloha

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Posted - 11/05/2013 :  4:27:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Edited by - Emerogork on 11/05/2013 4:37:19 PM
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Emerogork
Aloha

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Posted - 11/05/2013 :  4:36:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Admin

quote:
Originally posted by Emerogork

Now it looks as if I will be finding the notes on the highest three strings and the base notes on the lowest three and now working up and down the neck for the melody.

Right now I would like to see the sheet music for the Slack Key Lullaby only and will learn it as if I was a background player and performing with him. Learn the base notes first and enjoy matching the YouTube video. Eventually playing more as I develop.
So how is it going?

Slack Key Lullaby is a good one to learn by watching and listening. Straight bass notes and open/closed position for the melody.

Like Fran already posted, this video comes with the tablature.

Good luck. Let us know how you are progressing.



Hanging on, now that I can come up for air again. It got busy there for a while. I just put in to purchase the DVD mentioned. It should be here on the 11th. The version that was played Prairie Home Companion months ago has been playing endlessly in my truck for quite some time. I have introduced the sound to so many people by now.

I will post my progress....


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mpi_50
Lokahi

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2013 :  6:41:50 PM  Show Profile  Send mpi_50 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Look up the meaning of "aloha", then spread the message, duck soup bradda!!! Uncle Led would say "jus' press!" Same thing!!
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Emerogork
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Posted - 11/09/2013 :  6:58:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Admin

quote:
Originally posted by Emerogork

Now it looks as if I will be finding the notes on the highest three strings and the base notes on the lowest three and now working up and down the neck for the melody.

Right now I would like to see the sheet music for the Slack Key Lullaby only and will learn it as if I was a background player and performing with him. Learn the base notes first and enjoy matching the YouTube video. Eventually playing more as I develop.
So how is it going?

Slack Key Lullaby is a good one to learn by watching and listening. Straight bass notes and open/closed position for the melody.

Like Fran already posted, this video comes with the tablature.

Good luck. Let us know how you are progressing.


I just received the DVD and now I know that "tab" is. (-:

One thing I would have liked in the video is a playing of the Lullaby exactly as it is in the booklet. No frills, no extra notes, even leave out the turn-arounds. Just the basic basics. This way I can get started and add them later.

Maybe someone can record it for me?
Right now, I am reading the tab and attempting to play just the thumb part and to keep up with the recording. Slowly but surely....

P.S. Does this site send automatic notification of replies? I am not receiving them nor do I see an option to enable it.
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ukrazy
Akahai

USA
69 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2013 :  3:54:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First off, I'd say that learning a few turn-arounds is a great way to begin getting a feel for that slack key sound.

I was in the same boat as you when I started. I could read music and sight read, so early on, tab blew my mind. After I really sat down and decided I was going to try to work at it,(Ozzie's book), it made since. I tried doing just the bass notes at first, but without working on the melody at the same time, I felt lost, and really bored. A steady alternating bass will come with some practice, and then you can forget about it. It will be automatic, and you can't un-learn it.

What I love about slack key is that it's free flowing, from your heart, no sheet music type of music. I've reached the point now that I'm not using tab much, anymore. The songs I mostly like to play haven't been tabbed out. Once you've learned some basic fingerings and positions, you can work out a decent arrangment of almost any song, within reason. I learned a lot of what I know by watching Fran Guidry video's, and studying Professor Peter's book.
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