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sirduke58
`Olu`olu
USA
993 Posts |
 Posted - 09/07/2014 : 3:56:33 PM
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@ Jean--Sad to hear the passion has indeed waned a bit  But I'm happy to hear your legendary house concerts & workshops continue. On my "bucket list" is to participate in one of your kanikapilas.
@ Russell...By all means get crackin' on that book!!! The fringe benefit of doing "research" for it will be well worth the effort  |
Hoof Hearted?...Was it you Stu Pedaso? |
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1579 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2014 : 06:43:24 AM
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Originally posted by sirduke58
@ Fran.....A fellow 'Patcher (who wants to remain anonymous) tabbed out Thomas Kamahaku's YouTube rendition of "Ahulili" Just say the word & I'll send you the MP4 of the 'Patcher playing along with the PDF of the tabs. ...
Duke, thanks a lot for the offer. I'm having good success following the video, the problem is one of memory capacity, I need to upgrade my RAM (grin).
For folks trying to learn tunes from video, I can recommend Download Helper for Firefox to snag the file from YouTube and REAPER for playback. REAPER makes it possible to slow down the video while maintaining pitch and/or adjust the pitch to avoid retuning the guitar. It's also easy to create loops to go over a small section repeatedly. It almost seems like cheating.
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E ho`okani pila kakou ma Kaleponi
Slack Key Guitar in California - www.kaleponi.com
Slack Key on YouTube
Homebrewed Music Blog |
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garson
Lokahi
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2014 : 10:18:46 AM
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Are you still as passionate about learning ________ as ever?
Absolutely. It's getting even better
Are you studying with a kumu?
No but I go to George's workshop every summer
Do you have jam buddies to share mana'o with & do you pursue kanikapila?
Right now just one other guy Ed Cotham who has been to Aloha Camp a few times and has a pretty Grimes.
What are you studying or working on?
Lately I learned Aloha Kauai from Fran on You Tube and O O'e I'o (which I sang at George's workshop talent night from watching Kawika Kahiapo on you tube. Mostly I am trying to preserve the quality of the about 70 songs I have learned, many from Ozzie, Kevin Brown, Jeff Peterson, and (lately) Paul Togiaka.
Do you have mana'o or learning resource tips to share?
Get off of tab as soon as you can and learn from playing CDs and watching
Are you playing out or sharing with others to entertain?
Not much anymore.
Are you checking out taro patch much lately.
No but let's change that. |
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Kapila Kane
Ha`aha`a
USA
1051 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2014 : 2:41:10 PM
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has your interest in slack key(above mentioned) waned?
A: The interest is still good, but my confidence seems to be struggling and connection to a local community is weak here...not quite like the bay area, California or West Coast... but I know there's some hidden friends out there!
Here's a few questions out of pure curiosity:
Are you still as passionate about learning ________ as ever?
A: Hanging in there...but doubt myself.
Are you studying with a kumu?
A: no regular teacher, but looking for someone who understands what I'm aiming for...
Do you have jam buddies to share mana'o with & do you pursue kanikapila?
A: No real Hawaiian jam friends here in Denver area, but other musician-friends are pretty good at letting us try tunes...but they do come out with some nice musical flavors...even if not "traditional". It is usually musical.
So, we adapt and arrange according to our training, and the unique arrangements that speak from our souls and fingers.
What are you studying or working on?
A: Favorites are Jeff's tabs like Ray Kane and Sonny Chillingsworth, which are pretty much as they once played them.
A: I have lots of things to work on both old and new, borrowed and blue...
and do review things I used to "know" or almost know,
when I find time.
How are you investing in your study (workshops, kumus etc...)
A: looking for technique training for right hand, without having to Find or replicate Segovia!
Do you have mana'o or learning resource tips to share?
A: Willing to share, but have to think about what I'd recommend here...
in a One-on-one situation it varies with where the other person's background is, and their purpose and interest.
Are you playing out or sharing with others to entertain?
A: as a fidder quite often,. but outside that, and for Hawaiian, much too rarely
...but still have hope and try to mix in some Hawaiian fav's where it's allowed: Ku'u Morning Dew, Home O Kahalu'u, Wahine Ilikea, and a couple other Dennis which seem to come back quickly when out of practice.
...also still love da IZ, and try to do several close to his way! as much as is humanly (or heavenly?) possible. Also like several Keale versions of tunes.
Meanwhile, Hi'ilawe for "Somewhere Over the Couch", and perhaps outside the Living Room/Yard. But as George Kahumoku said once, "I think we do it for PEACE!" |
Edited by - Kapila Kane on 09/08/2014 2:54:53 PM |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 09/08/2014 : 5:40:53 PM
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| Eh, Duke! Ki ho'alu foa da blood preshah! I did one ki ho'alu workshop at da "Live Aloha Festival" yestaday. Had 4 peepo (plus Slipry1 an' Noeau) so was good. 'Cause I no sing, was good Al was dea, foa show how ki ho'alu accents da voice in mele. Jack is always good fun. Had good questions, was able to help one young guy- he plays ukulele wit' one halau in Olympia. I wen show him da importance of da t'umb. Good he wen' know Uncle Tom Kamahaku. I wen relate Kermet Apio's story about "wase time you tune da guitar slack if you no use da t'umb! If you jus' want foa play lead, no need tune 'em down. If no moa t'umb, den no moa slack key." |
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kihoalukid
Lokahi
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2014 : 10:03:36 AM
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My playing has been on hiatus for 10 months as I moved in with my father to take care of him while he's battling cancer. I will pick up where I left off when I can. Still check in here regularly.
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sirduke58
`Olu`olu
USA
993 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2014 : 7:29:23 PM
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| Sorry to hear about your dad's struggles with cancer, Lee. Sending all my mana for a full recovery, my bruddah..........Slack key seems so pale in comparison when faced with such challenges. |
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2014 : 05:23:53 AM
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| Eh, Lee, Duke, don't forget that music is for comfort and healing as well as binding us to those who came before and those coming after. |
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kihoalukid
Lokahi
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2014 : 06:52:38 AM
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| Tanks Guyz |
Lee |
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slkho
`Olu`olu
740 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2014 : 08:02:08 AM
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1. YES!!!!, everday
2. No
3. Yes
4. Ray Kane songs, of course
5. Yes
6. If you need any.
7. Yes
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Claudia
Lokahi
USA
152 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2014 : 4:38:57 PM
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Good topic, Duke! I love reading everyone's responses. And here we go:
Are you still as passionate about learning slack key as ever?
Absolutely!
Are you studying with a kumu.
Yes. I live in New York City, so this is an extreme challenge. Once a year I travel to Keola Beamer's Aloha Music Camp and take two slack key classes with him daily for a week straight, and also take classes with whoever is the other slack key teacher of the Camp - so over the years that has been John Keawe and Kevin Brown most often. On the way to Camp, I study for an afternoon with Ozzie Kotani. Between the several kumu, I am given material to work on all year in-between visits.
Do you have jam buddies to share mana'o and do you pursue kanikapila?
I do have jam buddies and I dearly love to play with them, but because they don't live in the City, it's not nearly often enough! So I visit Admin Andy, Bill W. and Sarah W. whenever I can! The Hawaiian community in NYC has several get-togethers during the year, most notably the big Central Park Hawaiian picnic every June, and we play together there. My former guitar teacher, Terre Roche, in Manhattan has turned into my slack key buddy and boy, do we have a blast! She met Keola Beamer in NYC for several slack key workshops and then she got hooked too!
What are you studying and working on?
I work on all the songs Ozzie and Keola have given me. When a song catches my ear on a Hawaiian music album or YouTube, I figure it out and play that too- most recent songs have been Keoki Kahumoku's arrangement of E Aloha Mai, a couple of songs from Ledward, and Auntie Nona's Trilogy "Pūpū Hinuhinu/Kahuli Aku/Ka Huelo ʻOpae." And for a wedding recently I was asked to play the Shaker Hymn "Simple Gifts" which I worked up in slack key, C wahine tuning.
How are you investing in your study (workshops, kumu etc)
All my resources go to the annual trips to Hawaii to work with Ozzie and Keola. I also have been studying Hawaiian language for several years now, sometimes with teachers when they are in NYC (rarely) and mostly online with ʻAha Pūnana Leo in Hilo. I also danced hula in NYC for 4 years with hui Nā Lehua Melemele, which added immeasurably to my understanding of the music. I did have to stop that when performances got too complicated for me, changing in and out of costumes for the kahiko and 'auana hulas, then into the musician costume and then back. In retrospect, I was crazy, but I relish the memories, LOL!
Do you have manaʻo or learning resource tips to share?
Ozzie Kotani's book is hands-down the best place to start learning. Mainlanders, if you can swing it, go to Hawaiʻi - go to Camp. Either the Beamerʻs Aloha Music Camp, or George Kakumoku's Camp on Maui, or Keoki Kahumoku's Camp on Big Island. All these Camps are about so much more than music alone - itʻs an immersion in the culture, on the ʻāina, with kumu that care so deeply and are willing to share with aloha in their hearts. Then go back to your hometowns all over the world and tell your friends and family about slack key, and share the music and manaʻo, and bring them to the slack key concerts when kumu come to your town to perform. Take some Hawaiian language online at ʻAha Pūnana Leo - you can take one chapter at a time and take as long as you need to finish the chapter. Here is the link: http://niuolahiki.ahapunanaleo.org
No one knows better than New Yorkers how expensive it can be to get to Hawaii. Get an airline affinity credit card (in NYC - United and Hawaiian Air work best) and get those points to work your way up to free trips to Hawaiʻi. Sign up for email alerts from Beat of Hawaiʻi - sometimes an airline will have a special deal for only a few hours and you can jump on it and get a cheap fare.
I am a big fan of the Tascam vocal trainer - I use it like Fran uses his Reaper to slow down passages on songs, adjust the keys, and loop the measures that need work.
Are you playing out or sharing with others to entertain?
Yes. I am one of several musicians (ʻukulele and slack key) for three hula groups in NYC - so we play for their rehearsals and their performances in theaters and festivals all the time. One of our great joys (Admin and I, that is!) is to play for Kumu Vicky Holt Takamine and her hālau Pua Aliʻi ʻIlima in NYC. Sometimes I play at schools. The New York Folk Music Society likes us and hires us for performances and workshops. Last night I played slack key with Terre Roche at a benefit for The Tibet House in NYC. I talk about the origins of slack key, explain the songs and play - and afterwards always have spirited discussions with audience members who are so taken with this beautiful music they have never heard before.
Ozzie says itʻs my kuleana to share and I do. I am perpetually grateful to my dear kumu, Ozzie and Keola, for all the aloha and music they share with me. And I am so blessed with all the friends I have made through this slack key journey - yes, you Duke  and so many others!
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thumbstruck
Ahonui
USA
2168 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2014 : 05:20:06 AM
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| Well said, Claudia! Music is best in a social/cultural context because it is a form of communication and music grows in sharing. Good that you have searched out community for that communication. |
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kihoaluatl
Akahai
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2014 : 06:32:53 AM
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Duke,
Thanks for the tips, will give them a try. Been working on Mele Li'i that Makalani1004 posted on YouTube. Always loved that melody. Planning my annual Thanksgiving trip home. Unfortunately family and other commitments make it nearly impossible to get a lesson in, especially as everyone has their own Thanksgiving celebrations. Last few years have had to deal with aging parents and their care so that has taken most of my visits. If the schedule frees up I will give you a ring.
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lat21north
Aloha
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2014 : 06:24:16 AM
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E Duke, pehea 'oe? On this, my annual visit to tp.net, your post really stood out as a great community-building topic.
1. Na'u, as passionate as ever.
2. Kumu 'ole loa here in Windsor, Mainland, US. Ozzie, can you swing by on your next trip to Las Vegas? :)
3. 'Ekahi hoaaloha with whom to share and play.
4. Studying ka 'olelo a me na mele kahiko.
5. Study sources: Books on the shelf and recordings in music folders vastly exceed my ability to settle in and focus on learning. I have an extra unopened copy of Keola's Slack Key Book with CD and will give it someone who will put it to good use.
6. Mana'o: E mālama kou mau kalipa.
7. In my case, playing out would deplete US fruit supply, so backyard only.
Mahalo e Duke,
Bill
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E holo mua
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Admin
Pupule
USA
4551 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2014 : 09:15:23 AM
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Originally posted by lat21north
I have an extra unopened copy of Keola's Slack Key Book with CD and will give it someone who will put it to good use.
Sounds like a potential contest? |
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Are you still studying ki ho'alu?
