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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  05:06:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dukie - obviously you were not the only one who experienced the same thing. Obviously, others in your family knew about what would happen.

I understand plenty of spirits at Laupahoehoe because of the tsunami. I have read about all he many deaths that happened to school children and teachers because of the tsunami. Auwe.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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braddah jay
Lokahi

235 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  09:30:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What,no moa da one dat wen pull your hair through da wall? You know das long time ago,140 lbs handsome buggah,wit planny hair.
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ypochris
Lokahi

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  5:37:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"back in the '30s or 40s there was a huge tsunami that claimed the lives of about 120 people including children who were at school."

The sad part of the story, which few remember, is that the school buildings were unharmed by the tsunami. When the ocean withdrew, the teachers led the children out onto the ocean floor to pick up fish and what not. Few survived when the ocean returned. If the children had remained in the classrooms they would have been fine.

To help erase the memories of the tragedy, the school buildings were moved to a lot on the Puna side of Hilo (Panaewa)on the side of the highway, where they remained for many many years. After 50 years or so they were bulldozed, and the site is now the Kulani Prison farm site.

When the tsunami hit Thailand recently, a Hawai'i resident saw history repeating itsself- people heading out onto the ocean floor to pick up fish. Being beter educated on the subject, the person yelled "tidal wave!" and then realizing most didn't speak English, "Tsunami!" A few lives were saved as a result, but most continued out onto the ocean floor. These stories are to emphasize the importance of a worldwide Tsunami awreness campaign- everyone should know, as we now do in Hawai'i, that when the ocean recedes you run for high ground.

By the way, Duke, so many inexplicable things have happened to me in my life that in spite of my materialistic scientific basic belief structure, I cannot discount experiences others relate as truth just because they are impossible to justify with our limited knowledge of how our universe works. I do have to wonder how your relatives know that the "spirit" you heard was trying to steal your soul, though. But I certainly beleive you heard, and were led by, something...

Chris
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Baritone
Lokahi

USA
136 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2008 :  5:45:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I no mo obake tales, Duke, but tank you for tell dat won. My maddah and fadah had but so long time past. Me, I go all da kine spooky places in Ho'onaunau, Milolii, Pumaile Home, Kalapana, Humuula Ranch syd, Laupahoehoe..... Nothing, tho. Even here in Washington when I go walk feet on First Nations' lands, no mo nuthin. But, Bruddah Duke, I honored you share this one. Dis make me cognizant and respectful.

Herb
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braddah jay
Lokahi

235 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  03:02:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I get one visitor,kolohe buggah.My boy's both seen em.Aleka said he saw da buggah chrow da fingah at em in da mirror,jj boy said he seen em in da hallway,me wen I had my cast on.He was standin there,only to poke his head out,wen I wen run fo look... nottin.Everybody was sleepin,so you know was sometin.Das it small and simple.Aloha braddah jay
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  10:37:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still don't understand why the light comes on when I flip the switch; how can I claim somethimg I didn't see doesn't exist? I see the light every day. "There's more to think of than Y'alls thought of, ain't it?"
Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  2:16:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are places where the spirits are quite present, but not in a malevolent manner. Places where I have really felt presence of spirits: Gettysburg; Antietam; Ulupo Heiau; Halema`uma`u; The Great Serpent Mound; Haleakala; Laiea Point and a place that was my Pawpapw's land, where there are Native American petroglyphs carved into a rock and there is lots of petrified wood in the area. There are plenty of places where you can feel the strong mana if you just let yourself be quiet and let yourself feel what the land and the spirits are trying to tell you.

There are also places where I get the very bad vibes. Blennerhasset Island in the middle of the Ohio River, I feel something oppressive there; one certain place at Antietam; the St. Bartholomew plaza in front of the church in Santo Domingo. I don't know why (well, except for the place at Antietam -- you can still set the ruts in the road, in the middle of a pasture or a cornfield - lots of blood in the earth there).

Also by the kitchen at Monticello in Virginia.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda

Edited by - wcerto on 09/27/2008 2:17:11 PM
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ypochris
Lokahi

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  2:39:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my most chicken skin moments started in the most mundane way- I was at my parent's house and needed to take a dump. My parents live in lower Puna and so naturally don't have a flush toilet- the lua is about 100 feet behind the house. Possibly totally irrelevant is the fact that the original heiau that Pa'ao built when he arrived on the Islands- the site of the first human sacrifices in Hawai'i- is on their property, but that is the front yard...

Anyway, it was quite dark and overcast, but I see well in the dark and almost never use a flashlight. So I headed out to the lua, and there was the door in front of me- I reached out to open it when suddenly I realized it was glowing faintly, which is why I could see it so clearly; and then I realized that the door in front of me was not the door to my parent's lua- the lua was about twenty feet to the right...

Talk about chicken skin- I think every hair on my body was standing straight out. I kept my cool, went and used the real lua which I suddenly needed to use more than ever. Then went back into the house where my parents and a few other family members couldn't help but wonder what had happened to me. I told them about the door, and my mother thanked me for not letting my curiosity get the better of me and going to check out what was on the other side.

I have to admit it never crossed my mind to open it in the moment, but ever since I have always wondered what would have happened if I had walked through it...

Chris
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2008 :  3:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the door to the underworld. I've read plenty Hawaiian stories about going through the door. I'll see if I can find some of them to let you know what books they were in. I think if you would have gone there, you would have left this world. It was not time for you to do so, therefore, you noticed what was going on and corrected yourself. I think probably an aumakua caused you to notice before it ws too late.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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braddah jay
Lokahi

235 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2008 :  8:44:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wassup,last night duke and I was playin music wen my friend wen walk right behind me,duke wen spock em.He wanted one bettah look,so he kept playin and try not to look to da left.Must have been junk da music cause our friend nevah did come back.Duke said it's been awhile since someting lidat wen happen,he kept playin cause he thought was one of my kids,den realized none of dem dat small.Das our #1 fan
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braddah jay
Lokahi

235 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2008 :  10:48:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Braddah ed,I wish was bobby would be moa sweet da music. Nah dat was legit visitor,harmless.Now dat duke seen em,he know my visitor is real,and not because I had too many beeyahs.
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2008 :  2:09:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The visitor was watchin Jay & Duke to make shua dey stay make moah videos so we can lissen. Eh wikiwiki. Ho`omakaukau.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2008 :  09:26:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Teacher: Eh, Kimo, can use da word "omelette" in one sentence?

Kimo: Eh, teecha, I go give you falss krax fo what you jus did, but omelette dis one slide.

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2008 :  10:23:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eh, Wanda! You wen' take yoa smaht pills!
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wcerto
Ahonui

USA
5052 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2008 :  12:48:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Speakin of Zhustain, here he stay teach you how fo cook da pua`a when nomo imu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEMpxyE8Nzk&feature=related

Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda
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