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wcerto
Ahonui
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 Posted - 12/04/2009 : 3:41:32 PM
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Yucky. Disgussting. Horrible. Gross. Sickening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg3W-vVX1kc
Tanks (sorta) to Braddah Ed for telling us all about this. Oh my oh my oh my.
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Me ke aloha
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 09:27:48 AM
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| Wanda, I hope you don't take any heat for posting this. I know that some people may wish that stuff like this shouldn't see the light of day because it's "an embarrassment" or "puts things in a bad light" etc, etc,. But, my goodness! You are dealing with some pretty sad dealings here. Regardless of the fact that this is taking place in Hawai'i, this is some pretty serious stuff. With all of the focus there is on food safety these days with recalls of this that and the other, responsibility for peoples health has to be shared by everyone involved with getting food to people. That includes the people that handle, store and sell it. I applaud you and Braddah Ed for posting this. |
"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain |
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NANI
Lokahi
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 05:17:07 AM
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| If I remember my History at all or maybe it is just all messed up history because of the movies but didnot Chinatown almost totaly burn to the ground trying to get rid of Rats once before back in the days LONG ago. When man is LONG gone Rats and the Cockaroach will live on no matter what we try to do. Makes you wonder who is the smarter creature here. Also makes me shiver. |
"A hui hou kakou, malama pono".
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hapakid
Luna Ho`omalu
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 08:21:52 AM
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Very interesting history about the plague in Honolulu. Rats or plague, me thinks it best not to have hordes of rats running around a food store.
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 11:35:29 AM
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[/quote]It wasn't rats, it was bubonic plague.
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Rats are usually part of the equation when it comes to the transmission of Bubonic plague to humans.
Taken from Wikipedia
The bubonic plague is an infection of the lymphatic system, usually resulting from the bite of an infected flea, Xenopsylla cheopis (the rat flea). The fleas are often found on rodents, such as rats and mice, and seek out other prey when their rodent hosts die. The bacteria form aggregates in the gut of infected fleas and this results in the flea regurgitating ingested blood, which is now infected, into the bite site of a rodent or human host.
Taken from About.com
Rare Diseases
Does it still occur in the world?
According to the World Health Organization, there are 1,000 to 3,000 cases of bubonic plague worldwide each year. There are no known cases in Australia or Europe. Areas where cases occur are in Russia, the Middle East, China, Southwest and Southeast Asia, Madagascar, southern and eastern Africa, the Andes mountains and Brazil.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that there are 10 to 15 cases of bubonic plague in the United States each year. These cases tend to occur in two regions: northern New Mexico, northern Arizona and southern Colorado; California, southern Oregon and far western Nevada.
No one is raising the specter of Bubonic Plague.
Much more common diseases that can be transmitted to humans via rats include the following, Leptospirosis, Rat-bite fever and Salmonella. All of which can be spread by rat urine and or feces.
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 12:34:00 PM
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I got salmonella once from Chi-chi's. verified by our local health department. It was not pleasant.
Knock knock.
Who's there.
Sam.
Sam who?
Sam and Ella. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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noeau
Ha`aha`a
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2009 : 8:50:34 PM
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| The board of health on 12/31/1899 decided to burn buildings to rid Chinatown of the Maʻi Pake. They chose a windy day and started mauka. The wind blew sparks and everything caught fire. The militia kept people from leaving the area while the fire raged. It is a wonder no one died. But it was another decision by the ruling class which resulted in oppression of non white people. Was if racism? Nobody knows but it seems it was easier to decide to destroy non white property than the other way around. The after math led to the culmination of new building codes since the consensus by the ruling class was that the Chinese lived in filth so new buildings had to meet codes that promoted cleanliness. It was not until many years later that it was discovered that it was fleas on rats that were the main vector in spreading the plague. |
No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō. |
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markwitz
`Olu`olu
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2009 : 06:57:34 AM
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Originally posted by noeau
It was not until many years later that it was discovered that it was fleas on rats that were the main vector in spreading the plague.
This article from Wikipedia says that the discovery that fleas transmitted plague happened in 1898. One year before the fire.
In 1894, two bacteriologists, Alexandre Yersin of France and Shibasaburo Kitasato of Japan, independently isolated the bacterium in Hong Kong responsible for the Third Pandemic. Though both investigators reported their findings, a series of confusing and contradictory statements by Kitasato eventually led to the acceptance of Yersin as the primary discoverer of the organism. Yersin named it Pasteurella pestis in honor of the Pasteur Institute, where he worked, but in 1967 it was moved to a new genus, renamed Yersinia pestis in honor of Yersin. Yersin also noted that rats were affected by plague not only during plague epidemics but also often preceding such epidemics in humans, and that plague was regarded by many locals as a disease of rats: villagers in China and India asserted that, when large numbers of rats were found dead, plague outbreaks soon followed.
In 1898, the French scientist Paul-Louis Simond (who had also come to China to battle the Third Pandemic) established the rat-flea vector that drives the disease. He had noted that persons who became ill did not have to be in close contact with each other to acquire the disease. In Yunnan, China, inhabitants would flee from their homes as soon as they saw dead rats, and on the island of Formosa (Taiwan), residents considered the handling of dead rats heightened the risks of developing plague. These observations led him to suspect that the flea might be an intermediary factor in the transmission of plague, since people acquired plague only if they were in contact with recently dead rats, who had died less than 24 hours before. In a now classic experiment, Simond demonstrated how a healthy rat died of plague after infected fleas had jumped to it from a rat who had recently died of the plague. |
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