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daniel ho
Aloha

USA
14 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2010 :  10:53:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit daniel ho's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aloha,

Recent attempts to sway public opinion against me and my record company through the spread of distorted misinformation require clarification. The allegations included accusations that I, Daniel Ho, declined permission for the two nominated albums on the Daniel Ho Creations label to be streamed on Grammy.com for voting members to consult.

Academy rules stipulate that BOTH recording and publishing rights for all tracks on all nominated albums in a category must be cleared, otherwise none of the nominated albums in that category would be streamed, in order to ensure fairness. The allegations further identified a staffmember at the NARAS office as the source of information regarding denied permissions.

In a meeting this afternoon with high-ranking NARAS officials, the following facts were established around the nominations in this year’s Hawaiian music category.

1. Daniel Ho Creations cleared the recording rights of BOTH of its nominated CDs, “He Nani” (Tia Carrere & Daniel Ho) and “Masters of Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar Vol. II” (Various Artists). Daniel Ho Creations also cleared all of the publishing rights for the album “He Nani.”

It was the publishing rights--held by other music publishers, NOT Daniel Ho Creations--for several tracks on “Masters” that could not be secured within the timeframe NARAS required, thus resulting in none of the nominated Hawaiian albums being available for streaming on Grammy.com for voting members.

2. On review of evidence of the negative allegations being made, the position of NARAS is that information provided by staffmember Ms. Joanna Chu was “misconstrued and misquoted.” NARAS’s Director of Business Affairs, Ms. Anne Meckelborg, may be contacted at 310-581-8644 should additional information be necessary.

3. NARAS Vice President of Awards Mr. Bill Freimuth acknowledged his awareness of my presence in the music industry, and said that the Recording Academy will vouch that all of my efforts to promote my label’s products among voting members are completely within Academy rules and guidelines.

Daniel Ho

LikaNui
Aloha

40 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  06:23:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a big story that confirms Daniel's comments in today's Honolulu Advertiser at http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101260331 .
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lynn
Lokahi

289 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2010 :  10:46:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit lynn's Homepage  Send lynn a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Daniel: mahalo nui for posting this. I know you prefer to remain silent when people start attacking you, and I respect that - but I saw the original allegations on this issue and I think that it's important that people have the facts.

You realize, I hope, that those of us who know you know that you would never have done anything like that. You are, after all, a keiki o ka 'aina, and regardless of where you live now, you've continued to devote your life's work to perpetuating Hawaiian music, not to perpetuating "Daniel Ho" at the expense of others. You are incredibly humble, you're generous in sharing your time and talent with many of Hawai'i's musicians (and others), and you and Lydia are forever opening your hearts (and home!) to everyone.

Whether or not someone likes your music or the music on your label, the personal attacks - especially those that call into question your integrity - are uncalled for. And I know they must hurt both you and Lydia very deeply...

E malama pono e Daniel - and thanks again for posting.

Aloha nui...
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Allen M Cary
Lokahi

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2010 :  5:10:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aloha Daniel,
Every year there is a thread called something like "the Hawaiian Grammys". It should accurately be called "let the Bitching begin." It usually lasts about a month, then gets renewed when someone not sufficiently "local" wins. All I can say is thank you for your music, and ignore the noise.
Aloha,
Allen
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sirduke58
`Olu`olu

USA
993 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2010 :  8:45:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just one point to make here.....How many Hokus does Daniel Ho have which incidentally are voted on by people who actually know what HAWAIIAN MUSIC IS.It's kind of like winning the Super Bowl when you went 0-16 during the regular season. When it comes down to who you know, how you promote your product and not the actual content of the music then to all the local Hawaiian music artists commence BITCHIN' The Hokus are not even close to being as prestigious as a Grammy award but at least you are being validated by your peers. Guess how many Daniel Ho fans I know personally here in Hawaii ? Go ahead and pick a number anywhere between 0 and 3And he's representing the music of Hawaii?....Let the hate mail begin LOL 'cause the truth hurts.
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DHCdesigns
Aloha

34 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  06:59:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit DHCdesigns's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is such behavior befitting of a sir or a duke?
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GUke
Lokahi

188 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  08:40:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Allen I agree with you. I've met Daniel and appreciate his efforts to spread Hawaiian music. IMHO he presents contemporary Hawaiian music. But he also produces the Hawaiian music most TP'ers love to hear and play. Mahalo Daniel for your body of Hawaiian music work.

Genaro

Genaro

Should I? Itʻs only $, and where Iʻm going itʻll burn or melt.
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chunky monkey
Ha`aha`a

USA
1022 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  09:06:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
for what it's worth, sir duke, DH is one of the nicest and hardest working musicians I've ever met. A stand up guy. Jawaiian is popular in Hawaii; do I care? NO. Do I care that you don't know any DH fans? NO. I know a bunch. Not hate mail. Just facts.
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  10:20:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chunky monkey

for what it's worth, sir duke, DH is one of the nicest and hardest working musicians I've ever met. A stand up guy. Jawaiian is popular in Hawaii; do I care? NO. Do I care that you don't know any DH fans? NO. I know a bunch. Not hate mail. Just facts.


As much as I would not like have to, because I do not like to speak ill of anyone, I must agree with Duke.

keaka
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  11:57:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This topic seems to be an annual "black hole" that has so much gravity that it never stops sucking comments out of people.

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  2:32:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nicely put, Norman.

I know Daniel personally, and have worked with him on occasion. I vote on both the Grammy & Nā Hōkū Hanohano Awards, and am VERY knowledgeable regarding Hawaiian music (forgive the bragging, but there are folks here who can back me on that). I will not reveal how I vote, other than to say that I always vote for the recording that I feel best represents a category.

Though we've exchanged e-mails, I don't yet know Duke personally - but I hope I get to correct that someday, because he sounds like a wonderful, talented and caring person, according to all the people I know who have met him.

Let this not be a two-sided issue, but rather one that reflects a wide collection of opinions about the music, those who play it, those who produce and promote it, and those who listen to it.

And let's make personal efforts to keep those opinions respectful.
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2010 :  5:00:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
NPR story tonight on "Why You Shouldn't Hate the Grammys" - - -
and Daniel Ho is one of the voices commenting.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123109184

Recognition by the Grammys has also helped the scores of musicians honored each year during the afternoon, pre-telecast Grammy ceremony. Slack-key guitarist and producer Daniel Ho — no relation to Don Ho — is a four-time Grammy winner in the Hawaiian music category.
"It's brought Hawaiian music to maybe a world stage," Ho says. "People know about it now — more so than they did before the Grammys acknowledged it as a category. Before that, there wasn't a lot written about Hawaiian music. But now, people are talking about slack-key guitar because four slack-key albums won the Grammy. The recognition certainly changed a lot of things career-wise. We're doing higher-level projects; bigger artists; maybe charging a little more money for a gig."

Edited by - Retro on 01/29/2010 5:06:19 PM
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noeau
Ha`aha`a

USA
1105 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2010 :  10:20:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said it before Iʻll say it again when it comes to awards WHO CARES. As was said, after the dust dies down most people donʻt remember who did what anyway. Awards are not what most people play music for. So after all is said and done jus press! We might as well argue if an apple actually hit Newton on the head.

As far as bringing Hawaiian music to the world stage. Many people before Daniel Ho did just that. ever since the 1920ʻs. Why donʻt we give Shirley Temple a grammy or Sol Hoʻopiʻi. One thing I am tired of hearing and this not an attack, but the attempt to homogenize and generalize everything into what is construed as being fair and resenting the fact that Hawaiians as a group have priority status and no outsider can lay claim to that. If a man like Duke can air his grievance every body else just shut up and listen. You all might learn something.
The grammy is awarded in ignorance just like when tourists come over to Hawaiʻi and wear shoes inside the house. You like play our music then take the time to learn the culture and the historic roots based in fact and not in western bias. Many opinions are always offered out of ignorance and sheer callousness and insensitivity to Hawaiian culture . The grammy promotes commercial exploitation of an art form that is deeper in meaning than just playing fancy arrangements and sounding pretty.

I understand that people would like to make an honest living from their craft and some do. But the lionʻs share of most revenue go to the business people rather than the artist. I do understand that that is the way of things. But It does not have to be defended and justified.

I still say I ʻainokea when it comes to awards but it will go on any way that is human nature. But do we have to spend needless energy on this topic when there are people suffering in the world from problems greater than this petty argument?

No'eau, eia au he mea pa'ani wale nō.

Edited by - noeau on 01/30/2010 10:40:20 PM
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2168 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  07:18:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
T'anks, eh, fo da input, Al. It is good when excellence is recognized, but any excellence represents only a small part of the endeavor or of a given human. We all strive to overcome ignorance, ineptitude and (gasp!) selfishness. We all have our flat sides. Learning and respecting other cultures helps. Music is a communication. With it we can cross time and distance. I still play tunes my Dad and Grandfathers played. I am connected to them. I still play the tunes my kumu played me back in '74. Again, I am connected. I've jammed with SirDuke. IMHO, if you have a chance to do that, take it. I enjoy CDs, I've learned a lot from them. Everyone will do a task a little bit different from anyone else. We're all the same, we're individuals. Time for pancakes now.
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LikaNui
Aloha

40 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  12:14:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The winner has been announced. If you want to know, go to http://www.grammy.com/nominees?category=143 and scroll down.
Many may want to watch the main program live tonight, and since the winner will be announced there too (in a screen scroll), we probably shouldn't discuss the Hawaii winner until tomorrow, unless there's a Spoiler function here that I haven't found.
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Retro
Ahonui

USA
2368 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  2:05:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Retro's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congratulations to Da...



...winnahs!
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