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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
 Posted - 04/09/2010 : 08:13:33 AM
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In Hawaiian poetry, there must be something special about the evening time, ke ano ahiahi. There are many mele that sing a bit about that time of the day.
He Lei Na Ke Aloha
He lei mai nei kou o nei ano ahiahi
No Ke Ano ahiahi
No ke ano ahiahi, ke aloha la
Kealoha
He ala onaona kou, no ke ano ahiahi
Ahi Wela
I lei ho`ohiehie, No ke ano ahiahi
Is there a reason that so many mele use this phrase? Is there some kaona behind it? Is it just the favorite time of day? What is the significance? If I have learned anything about Hawaiian music, it is that each word in a mele is there for a very specific purpose. The choice of word was not made lightly. Is it that as dark time comes and cools down the air, other things might be heating up?
Any thoughts or discussion thereupon would be greatly appreciated.
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Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a
USA
1511 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2010 : 1:26:23 PM
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| Evenings not just important in Hawaiian music Auntie! "Just a song at twilight" - Love's Old Sweet Song, "In the Evening When The Sun Goes Down", "In the Evening by the Moonlight", all old oldies! There are many more. Before there was air conditioning, as the temperature began heading for reasonability, folks would go out on the veranda and relish the outside, couples would court and spark, etc. There also comes a time, here on the mainland, just about sunset, when the wind dies down and everything get still (except for the mosquitos). It's magic, especially in the wilderness! With the advent of TV, air conditioning & all, people have forgotten what a magic time twilight is. |
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Mark
Ha`aha`a
USA
1628 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 08:35:48 AM
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"Don't you hate to see that evening sun go down?
Don't you hate to see that evening sun go down?
Don't your home feel lonesome, when your baby's not around?"
-----Brain Cloudy Blues, among many others.
Sorry Jack, just couldn't resist. 
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Larry Goldstein
Lokahi
267 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 10:48:44 AM
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quote:
"Don't you hate to see that evening sun go down?
Then again, we have,
"Test me, test me,
Why don't you arrest me
Throw me in the jail house
Lord, until the sun go down, till it go down"
......Bertha; lyrics by Hunter, music by Garcia
Larry
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2010 : 4:07:27 PM
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I think Elton John made one mele about "don't let the sun go down on me".
Do any of yunz know any more Hawaiian mele about ano ahiahi? |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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mike2jb
Lokahi
USA
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Fran Guidry
Ha`aha`a
USA
1580 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2010 : 09:23:17 AM
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Originally posted by wcerto
I think Elton John made one mele about "don't let the sun go down on me".
Do any of yunz know any more Hawaiian mele about ano ahiahi?
Wanda, do you use the Google "site:" limiter?
site:huapala.org "ano ahiahi" pulls up a very interesting list, "Hilo March" for goodness's sake!. Good tool for a researcher.
Fran |
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Edited by - Fran Guidry on 04/12/2010 09:24:12 AM |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2010 : 03:06:36 AM
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Fran - I never heard of Google site limiter. Come, come tell all about it. Sounds like something very valuable.
Remember just me and Paul at home with Judge Judy and Judge Mathis or Emeril on the TV, we learn nothing about the real world. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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sm80808
Lokahi
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2010 : 03:49:09 AM
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Aunty W, when you do a search you can use "site: <website url>" as an addition to yourquery to specify search results from a particular site. example:  |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2010 : 08:12:16 AM
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| Thank you very much, Shawn. Auntie learned something new today. That is a GRAND idea and so helpful. Them google guys, very akamai. |
Me ke aloha
Malama pono,
Wanda |
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wcerto
Ahonui
USA
5052 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2010 : 08:45:09 AM
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Only thing - I do not get the same search results as Shawn but you can see that I did not get all kinds of stuff like usual with google. But I wonder why I have different than Shawn. I did the same as what he had above. But still, the fact that it limits is a great idea.
Search Results
1. No Ke Ano Ahiahi
No ke ano ahiahi ke aloha la; I ka hali`ali`a `ana mai; O ko`u la heo keia la; Ke lu mai nei na pe`a; Ke hiu nei ka heleuma la; Ua kau e ka hae mahope ...
www.huapala.org/No_Ke_Ano_Ahiahi.html - Cached - Similar
2. No Ke Ano Ahiahi
No ke ano ahiahi ke aloha lâ; I ka hâli`ali`a `ana mai; O ko`u lâ heo kêia lâ; Ke lû mai nei nâ pe`a; Ke hiu nei ka helêuma lâ; Ua kau e ka hae ma hope ...
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Show more results from www.huapala.org
3. Stephen Inglis: Albums
At present site of the Honolulu Zoo parking lot, there once existed an island .... View lyrics at huapala.org. 15. No Ke Ano Ahiahi (vocal). Traditional ...
steveinglis.com/albums/mahina/?lyrics=1
4. No Ke Ano Ahiahi - Straight Dope Message Board
A friend of mine asked me to look up the lyrics to No Ke Ano Ahiahi (In the Evening Time), ... http://www.huapala.org/No_Ke_Ano_Ahiahi.html. Woo hoo! ...
boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=1641549 - Cached
5.Huapala.org - Hua Pala Hawaiian Hula Archives
Dec 1, 2009 ... Ahe Lau Makani - Lili`uokalani; Ahi Wela - Lizzie Doirin & Mary Beckley; *music note*Ahulili - Scott ... *music note* `Ano`i Pua Kaimana - John K. Almeida & Randy Oness ... HuaPala.org (registered and active website) ...
whois.domaintools.com/huapala.org
6.Ku Kino - Pipl Profiles
Ku'u lei o ke ano ahiahi. A he lei na'u i haku a lawa. I kahiko no ... [ www.huapala.org ] ... [ www.huapala.org ]. mu,oba,nga,Shs,ki,bw,go ku,mwaka ... This is the ultimate site for buying the music that you find here, locally . ...
pipl.com/directory/name/Kino/Ku - Cached
7. EKF :: Puke No'eau :: 'Ama'ama
'O Kahiapo kekahi o nā kānaka mahi'ai akamai loa o Hawai'i nei. Inā he pilikia ko kekahi me ka mahi'ai, hele lākou iā Kahiapo no ke kōkua. ...
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"Ke Ano Ahiahi," "Puuonioni". Tone Art. A, B. 143. "Ancient and Modern Kawika". "Ancient and Modern Liliu'e," "Ancient Liliu'e". Huapala Studio ...
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Aloha kakahiaka, a ka lā, ahiahi, etc. Pehea `oe `O ______ ko`u inoa `O ai kou inoa? 3) Vocabulary (vocal and hand motion) and ... li`a, ano`i. Mele no Hawai`i. 1) Ke Ao Nani practice. 2) Oli Aloha practice ... Hawaiian Music Resource - www.huapala.org. Hula Preservation Society Hula Preservation Society website.
www.kaahelehawaii.com/pages/classes_olelo_music.htm - Cached - Similar
10. Compositions by Liliuokalani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is now the site of the Lili'uokalani Childrens' Center. .... I ke ahiahi Pōʻakolu, It was on a Wednesday evening. Kuʻu ʻike ʻana iho, That tidings came to me ..... Ke ano laʻi mai nei ka ʻōpua, As the cloud bank reposes in serenity. Hai lohi ka manaʻo .... Tūtū (Granny) - Queen Lili'uokalani at Huapala.Org ...
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Me ke aloha
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alika207
Ha`aha`a
USA
1260 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2010 : 06:53:10 AM
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| first verse of "Ku'u Wehi O Ke Aumoe" written by Puakea, recorded by Keali'i on "Kawaipunahele" |
He kehau ho'oma'ema'e ke aloha.
'Alika / Polinahe |
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keoladonaghy
Lokahi
257 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 11:34:28 AM
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Aloha Wanda. I don't think that ahiahi is necessarily used in song any more frequently than other times of day for any particular cultural reason. Ano seems to be most frequently use with ahiahi in song, but it can be and I have seen ano kakahiaka, too. The Hawaiian dictionary notes its use with kakahiaka as rare.
There are a number of words that can be used to designate a period of time. I'm particularly fond of "kau ahiahi" in particular contexts and have used it in at least two mele I've written. it imparts a different feel, and because of dual meanings has a second meaning that will cause me to use it in particular situations where that second meaning is applicable. I'd rather not say what that is at this point; it's a little momi (pearl) that I figured out on my own and had confirmed by a colleague a few years ago.
There is so much vocabulary available to haku mele in regards to times of day, and it's kind of sad that so many modern songs just use the Hawaiian "equivalents" of our English language terms for those kinds of day - kakahiaka, awakea, 'auinalā, ahiahi, pō, sometimes aumoe. I particularly love the vocabulary that can be used to describe the time before and after dawn, both explicitly and implicitly. |
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Songs with "Ano ahiahi"
