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Hookani
Lokahi

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Posted - 08/19/2010 :  1:40:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
It ain't the large guitar that impresses women.


It's the fast fingers.

Ke Kani Nahe
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2169 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2010 :  3:35:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about a kordeen? A quote I found in da 'patch a while back was, "I learned guitar to pick up chicks and now I talk to middle aged guys about my fingernails." I have found that the only ones really impressed by music are other musicians. Non pickers can enjoy music, but don't get the challenges, sweat, frustrations, joys, ecstacies the same way we do. Even just learning a few ukulele chords can establish a deeper commonality with pickers. But then, we're all unique, just like everyone else.
BTW, I have noticed that people are quietest during a raffle.
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Admin
Pupule

USA
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Posted - 08/20/2010 :  04:50:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Send Admin an AOL message  Send Admin an ICQ Message  Send Admin a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thumbstruck

A quote I found in da 'patch a while back was, "I learned guitar to pick up chicks and now I talk to middle aged guys about my fingernails."
A quote from 2005:

From Guitar, An American Life. Author, Time Brookes (p. 129) writes:

Ed Gerhard, a fine fingerstyle guitarist from New Hampshire, tells a joke that is the truest thing I heard in two years of asking people about the guitar: "You start off playing guitar to get chicks and end up talking with middle-aged men about your fingernails."

Andy
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slkho
`Olu`olu

740 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2010 :  07:11:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good Joni Mitchell reference Retro...LOL...I like that one.
I'm late on this tread, as I dont' frequent the TP as much as I used to. But there is a lot of woman who play slack key, not sure where your looking, but there's plenty. I've seen them first hand here in the mainland, and throughout Hawaii. Granted they're not "famous" or "well known", (i.e. Lehua, Owana, etc...) but how many men outside the top 10 performers out there are known. Slack key among women is fine...don't understand the fuss.
~slkho
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markwitz
`Olu`olu

USA
841 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2010 :  04:39:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ki ho'alu by Cindy Combs. I took this video with Cindy's permission a couple of weeks ago and she has also given me permission to post it on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUknFcxJl0

"The music of the Hawaiians, the most fascinating in the world, is still in my ears and
haunts me sleeping and waking."
Mark Twain
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Bau
Lokahi

USA
226 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2010 :  05:01:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from what I've observed there certainly doesn't seem to be a bias toward women in Hawai'ian music liek there is in a genere like rock and especialy metal, which I've done for many years. In those generes there is this this 'macho' element , epecialy metal , because the music is of such an agressive nature. I have been treated very badly being a female , the stories I could tell!

Perhaps it comes down to what another poster said about differences between men and women, men are more technicaly minded and gravitate toward the virtuoso type of solo instrument thing while women more emotion oriented and prefer vocals and music with more of a sentimental content to it?

I like both so do both. though I haven't come close to achiving my desired level of virtuosity :P
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sirduke58
`Olu`olu

USA
993 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2010 :  1:14:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

quote:
originally posted by Bau

Perhaps it comes down to what another poster said about differences between men and women, men are more technicaly minded and gravitate toward the virtuoso type of solo instrument thing while women more emotion oriented and prefer vocals and music with more of a sentimental content to it?


Wow Alice!! I said it but you state it a lot more eloquently. That's exactly what I was trying to say too
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Bau
Lokahi

USA
226 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2010 :  5:44:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
why thank you kind sir :)


perhaps a degree of bias that might exist coming from the media is if the people promoting artists are mostly male they will just naturaly like the more technical type of music? There also seems to be this 'freak show' aspect too the media seems to thrive on, so technical abilities for the guys and apearence for ladies, seems to be overy focused on in general.
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Mark
Ha`aha`a

USA
1628 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  12:11:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good topic & good discussion!~

I'm working on a show with Del Rey, who certainly rates as one of the finest guitarists working today, of any gender. So why ain't she as famous as, say Bob Brozman?????

While digging through her website for publicity pix, I discovered that Del's got a couple of interesting informational pages about women guitarists and musicians, which I'd suggest you check out:

Women With Guitar was a photo exhibit she curated in Switzerland. One of the names was unfamiliar to me: the Hawaiian jazz guitarist Mary Kay.

http://hobemianrecords.com/wwg.html

Women in American Music is a similar exhibit.

http://hobemianrecords.com/wamm.html

Here's some more info on Mary Kay--born Mary Ka‘ahue! I'm going to spend some time getting to know her story!

http://www.celebrityrockstarguitars.com/rock/kaye_mary.htm

http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/mary-kaye/sep-06/23196

Amazing!
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  12:29:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The lady pictured on the front of the second clip is Memphis Minnie, legendary depression era blues guitarist/singer. She authored and recorded,with her then husband, Kansas Joe McCoy on vocals, a song called "When The Levee Breaks." This was in 1929Funny how the only version that got any real air play was Led Zepplin's 1970's cover.Here's a link
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Memphis+Minnie
Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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mike2jb
Lokahi

USA
213 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  1:32:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link, Paul. As I was enjoying this song I'd never heard before, I got a little creepy feeling, considering what occurred in New Orleans 5 years ago tomorrow.
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sm80808
Lokahi

347 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  4:18:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rendesvous1840

The lady pictured on the front of the second clip is Memphis Minnie, legendary depression era blues guitarist/singer. She authored and recorded,with her then husband, Kansas Joe McCoy on vocals, a song called "When The Levee Breaks." This was in 1929Funny how the only version that got any real air play was Led Zepplin's 1970's cover.Here's a link
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Memphis+Minnie
Paul



She might have done better with John Bonham on drums...
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  4:27:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rendesvous1840

The lady pictured on the front of the second clip is Memphis Minnie, legendary depression era blues guitarist/singer. She authored and recorded,with her then husband, Kansas Joe McCoy on vocals, a song called "When The Levee Breaks." This was in 1929Funny how the only version that got any real air play was Led Zepplin's 1970's cover.Here's a link
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Memphis+Minnie
Paul


Hey, Paul, Memphis Minnie's song is about the great Mississippi flood of 1927. Faulkner wrote a short story about it that is amazing - AAGGH! I've forgotten it's name! It's about a convict who is swept away by the flood and finds a new life on a river shanty in the swamps. She is/was fabulous!

keaka
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2010 :  4:35:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got it! William Faulkner's short story "Old Man" (in the book "If I Forget Thee Jerusalem") was about a prison break from Parchman Penitentiary during the flood. It's a great story. I just had to dig the book out. Several other blues artists, among them Barbeque Bob and Charley Paton, also had recordings about the flood. Kinda like what happened in 1993.

keaka
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rendesvous1840
Ha`aha`a

USA
1055 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2010 :  05:48:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep. "All The News That's Fit To Sing."
Unko Paul

"A master banjo player isn't the person who can pick the most notes.It's the person who can touch the most hearts." Patrick Costello
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