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Karl Monetti
`Olu`olu

USA
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Posted - 01/10/2011 :  08:49:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit Karl Monetti's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Slipry1
COuld not find a way to contact Alan Akaka on the web site that came up. Do you have more specific info on how to contact him for skype lessons? I am a very visual learner, and since you won't come to Alaska to teach me (imagine!!! he goes to Hawai'i instead; what's wrong with this guy?) I need someone via the magic of the ethereal internet.
Mahalo

Karl
Frozen North
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Larry Miller
Akahai

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2011 :  04:28:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In response to one of the questions, I got a Gold Star Weissenborn and find it to be quite playable. I prefer it to the resonator guitars as it has a softer less brassy sound.

I agree about Brozman- he has a very impressive technique, but after listening to "Feet" Rogers, I'm afraid that I'm spoiled for that Ho'opi'i style.

AS I mentioned on another thread, I drop the low D and add a high G on the 1st string. Has anyone else tried that tuning?

Whee ha!

Larry M
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2011 :  08:08:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope. I use variations of the C6 tuning, the B11 tuning and. for my 6 string resonator guitar, the "high G" tuning (from low string, G B D G B D). From your post, I believe that you are using TaroPatch, the oldest Hawaiian steel tuning - D G D G B D, which I mentioned in an earlier post. btw, any chance you are the Larry miller who's a great Cajun steeler?

keaka
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Mike Anderson
Akahai

Canada
84 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2011 :  07:25:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lawrence

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(My newbie advice for Fred is to check out the stuff Bob Brozman does with Led Kaapana and Cyril Pahinui- amazing guitar by true masters!!)Aloha, Matthew in Orygun
Also worth mentioning is the newer release of Bob Brozman and George Kahumoku: Kani Wai , which was nominated last year for two Na Hoku Hanohano awards. On this disc (and partly because of the influence of George) Bob shows that he can actually slow down and get those nice smooth almost pedal steel type sounds when he wants to, but there is plenty of energetic stuff on there as well.

P.S: When Bob is playing he will often pick up the instrument, park the steel and play in regular fingerstyle form with alternating bass and the usual Hawaiian riffs. Then he will put in back on his lap and resume with the steel.





This is exactly the kind of great thread I joined this forum for! Awesome guys - and thanks for the note about "Kani Wai", which I hadn't heard about before. Went over to iTunes and got it right away as I couldn't stand the thought of waiting for shipment. :)

It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
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Mike Anderson
Akahai

Canada
84 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2011 :  07:31:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Feet" Rogers is also, BIG time, my guy for electric, Sol Ho'opi'i (discovered through Mr. Brozman) for acoustic. It's ALL good!

And I like this debate about 1928 style with slack key - but it seems Mr. Pahinui and Mr. Kaapana also didn't mind one bit. ;)

Would love to hear any of them play with a good electric lap steel guy though, that's for sure.

It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
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slipry1
Ha`aha`a

USA
1511 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2011 :  6:45:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mike Anderson

"Feet" Rogers is also, BIG time, my guy for electric, Sol Ho'opi'i (discovered through Mr. Brozman) for acoustic. It's ALL good!

And I like this debate about 1928 style with slack key - but it seems Mr. Pahinui and Mr. Kaapana also didn't mind one bit. ;)

Would love to hear any of them play with a good electric lap steel guy though, that's for sure.


Well, Gabby was a really good steel player himself; played steel for Andy Cummings and Don Ho, and, remember, he played with Feet in the Sons of Hawaii. You can hear Gabby playing steel on the "Gabby Pahinui Hawaiian Band" cds. He overdubs himself twice on "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight" on V1, and plays steel on "How'd Ya Do" on V2. I've played with Led here in Seattle and when I was in Hawaii. It's true, he doesn't use a steel guitar often, and I've never heard a steel player on his records.

There is a rich history of Hawaiian steel for its beginning in the 1880's until today. For most of that time, the sound of a steel guitar meant "Hawaiian" to most people. I recommend "Legends of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar" and "History of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar" on Cort International records. The liner notes are very good on both albums, and the tracks are gorgeous.

keaka
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thumbstruck
Ahonui

USA
2182 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2011 :  04:15:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eh, Jack, we heard Led play his Jones resophonic a couple years ago and he tried your 8-string Dobro a couple times.
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Mike Anderson
Akahai

Canada
84 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2011 :  06:53:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by slipry1


Well, Gabby was a really good steel player himself; played steel for Andy Cummings and Don Ho, and, remember, he played with Feet in the Sons of Hawaii. You can hear Gabby playing steel on the "Gabby Pahinui Hawaiian Band" cds. He overdubs himself twice on "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight" on V1, and plays steel on "How'd Ya Do" on V2. I've played with Led here in Seattle and when I was in Hawaii. It's true, he doesn't use a steel guitar often, and I've never heard a steel player on his records.

There is a rich history of Hawaiian steel for its beginning in the 1880's until today. For most of that time, the sound of a steel guitar meant "Hawaiian" to most people. I recommend "Legends of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar" and "History of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar" on Cort International records. The liner notes are very good on both albums, and the tracks are gorgeous.



Hiya slipry1 - yes, I have all those disks as a matter of fact, they are some of my main inspiration. I think I first heard Gabby back in the late 70s on Ry Cooder's "Chicken Skin Music". Right now I am listening again to "Blue Hawaiian Moonlight" from Hawaiian Band, and yes that really is a sweet steel track! :)

Further to my remark on Bob B with slack key, I was thinking about the debate yesterday while listening to "Four Hands Sweet and Hot" - which I believe is mostly Bob's Kona and Weissenborn rather than National - and I didn't hear a whole lot of that 1920s chops-heavy playing. I thought Mr. B's playing harmonized very nicely with Cyril's in fact.

Thanks for the good thoughts and info slipry1!


It's never too late to have a happy childhood!

Edited by - Mike Anderson on 06/13/2011 06:54:19 AM
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Mike Anderson
Akahai

Canada
84 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2011 :  07:34:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey all, just wondering if anyone besides slipry1 and this fella: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSE2p1GUr9k is using B11 on a Weissenborn? Or C6 for that matter?

slipry1, would you be able to tell me what string gauges you're using for these (I'm assuming a 25" scale)? - would be most grateful.

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fred d
Akahai

USA
60 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2011 :  7:48:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well Friends it's been nearly a year since I started this post! I have been taking weekly hour lessons with Bob Diedrtch a former Pro and in the hall of music fame in Colorada. Wonderful player at 87, I bought one of his twin neck 8 string consol guitars and have been learning to play in C6 and E9 I now can play about 6 songs note for note and know most of my major, minor, and seventh chords I have played for the red hat ladys and several other retirement groups as back up. We teach ukulele at the local retirement center weekly and jam with several other local groups as well as one that we try to sing in Hawiian. This culture seem to be additive and I seem to be experence my second, third?? child hood Thanks for all the help from the Bog

fred davis
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